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<blockquote data-quote="Kerrick" data-source="post: 4189550" data-attributes="member: 4722">Yeah, but if you use AC = 3/4 HD (even accounting for the size modifier), our CR 35 great wyrm silver dragon ends up being AC 46 (-8 size, +44 NA), which is well below where it should be (55). If you go with HD-1, it becomes 55 (-8 size, +53 NA), which is dead on. See, the problem here, from what I can see after doing a few calculations, is that any formula you use based on CR won't apply equally across all age categories for some reason (it's probably because dragons' CRs are so high compared to their HD). Give me some time and I could probably find one, but I think the designers just said &quot;screw it&quot; and made it HD-1 because it was easiest. Bah, now I've got a challenge... I'll figure this out.Alzrius is right - the total is the ECL, not just the added HD/class levels. So I'm thinking I could just take 2/3 of the LA and use that as the HD/level adjustment. That makes a bit more sense - vampire, frex, is LA +7, but there's no way in hell I'd add 7 levels of undead to something. 4 levels sounds a bit closer to the mark.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kerrick, post: 4189550, member: 4722"] Yeah, but if you use AC = 3/4 HD (even accounting for the size modifier), our CR 35 great wyrm silver dragon ends up being AC 46 (-8 size, +44 NA), which is well below where it should be (55). If you go with HD-1, it becomes 55 (-8 size, +53 NA), which is dead on. See, the problem here, from what I can see after doing a few calculations, is that any formula you use based on CR won't apply equally across all age categories for some reason (it's probably because dragons' CRs are so high compared to their HD). Give me some time and I could probably find one, but I think the designers just said "screw it" and made it HD-1 because it was easiest. Bah, now I've got a challenge... I'll figure this out. Alzrius is right - the [i]total[/i] is the ECL, not just the added HD/class levels. So I'm thinking I could just take 2/3 of the LA and use that as the HD/level adjustment. That makes a bit more sense - vampire, frex, is LA +7, but there's no way in hell I'd add 7 levels of undead to something. 4 levels sounds a bit closer to the mark. [/QUOTE]

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