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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 3427143" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hey Cheiromancer matey! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're probably right. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek! :o" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /> </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I told you that when I initially did my playtesting I didn't take into account the dwindling power of multiple weaker opponents as an encounter plays out. </p><p></p><p>When I redid the same tests the figures came up differently.</p><p></p><p>So to me the whole thing was a totally black and white scenario that stemmed on the point: "does the attacking power of multiple weaker opponents degrade over the course of a fight with a single more powerful opponent?"</p><p></p><p>The answer to that question is obviously a resounding YES. Therefore (as far as I can tell) theres nothing to debate. I made a mistake, simple as that. </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I never quite understood that...I just figured you were having a bad day.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I knew you'd see sense in the end. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly, so there was no point you getting your knickers in a twist about nothing you silly sausage! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>For ECLs over 20 I also had to apply the silver rule wholesale (5/6ths), THEN use the 2/3rds to get the CR.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Normally I just do it all in my head. I have a pretty good understanding off the dynamic so the tables are just for other people. Although I do think they are very useful if you have a specific Party Level in mind. An Excel spreadsheet of that would be great.</p><p></p><p>Although I have created a new table which is brilliant for working out multiple monsters of variable CR.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 3427143, member: 326"] Hey Cheiromancer matey! :D You're probably right. :o I told you that when I initially did my playtesting I didn't take into account the dwindling power of multiple weaker opponents as an encounter plays out. When I redid the same tests the figures came up differently. So to me the whole thing was a totally black and white scenario that stemmed on the point: "does the attacking power of multiple weaker opponents degrade over the course of a fight with a single more powerful opponent?" The answer to that question is obviously a resounding YES. Therefore (as far as I can tell) theres nothing to debate. I made a mistake, simple as that. I never quite understood that...I just figured you were having a bad day. I knew you'd see sense in the end. :p Exactly, so there was no point you getting your knickers in a twist about nothing you silly sausage! :D For ECLs over 20 I also had to apply the silver rule wholesale (5/6ths), THEN use the 2/3rds to get the CR. Normally I just do it all in my head. I have a pretty good understanding off the dynamic so the tables are just for other people. Although I do think they are very useful if you have a specific Party Level in mind. An Excel spreadsheet of that would be great. Although I have created a new table which is brilliant for working out multiple monsters of variable CR. [/QUOTE]
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