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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 5019726" data-attributes="member: 326">Hey there Sylrae! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Its a complex issue, although technically you are using a CR 4 (ECL 6) monster at a slightly lower level than it was supposed to, hence the possibility of skewed results.I think this is one of the reasons I suggested (but didn't enforce) the idea of all characters having base hit dice derived from their size. So, for instance a normal human would have 3 Hit Dice before even applying class Hit Dice.Its notable that the Savage Species book treats the Minotaur as ECL 8 in tandem to its 6 base Hit Dice. It divides the monster into 8 levels whereby it gets partial powers each level until 8th where it gets the full suite of abilities and hit dice. I think thats probably the best way to play a monster at lower levels than it was intended, rather than simply a one time bonus.For instance giving a 1st-level character a +5 vorpal sword would probably only be a +1.8 ECL boost, but might have unbalancing consequences at low-levels. As well as people wanting to kill the character and take its stuff, or in your case, concentrate on attacking the Minotaur character because it posed more of a threat.</blockquote>