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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9302951" data-attributes="member: 7030563">Spells.  They almost always work for this.PCs are capped at level 20 and generally top out at a 20 casting stat, enemy spellcasters don't have such limits and you can easily drive DC well over 20 on a save or suck.  I am playing level 20 in a campaign right now and one enemy was pitching a DC25 save at the party in the session last night.Monks and Paladins are the only classes that can routinely pass saves at high level.  A Paladin can help others in the party too, but only if the party clumps up and then they are vulnerable to AOEs.Another thing that will debilitate a high-level party fast is a campaign that forces exhaustion and for the kind of things characters are doing at this level, that is not difficult from a story perspective.</blockquote>