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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9312740" data-attributes="member: 7030563">As you noted I posted &quot;hours of video&quot; of real play where a touch spell was not possible.&nbsp; I think that very effectively demonstrates it, whether you want to admit it or not.No it was not a snipe hunt.&nbsp; It was the last three D&amp;D videos posted by this DM and I pointed out the start time for EVERY single combat in those three videos and looked at EVERY single round of combat in those 6 combats, counting which ones all PCs were within 30 feet movement of each other.If you want me to show a still grid describing a combat where PCs can't reach each other, ok, that is far easier here you go -&nbsp; These are grids from REAL combats played, NONE of these are a &quot;narrow hallway&quot; and in none of them can all the PCs reach each other for a touch spell.&nbsp; There are PCs out of reach for a touch spell in all of these examples.Example 1:Combat with a bunch of giant spiders around and between PCs.&nbsp; There is 40 feet between the East and West PC, so even if the spiders weren't there they would be unreachable.[ATTACH=full]356778[/ATTACH]Example 2 - 5 PCs with 120 feet between them fighting 5 monsters (3 off screen), also note 1 PC is frightened and can't even move towards the two in the Northwest at all.Example 3: Two Westmost PCs can't reach eastmost PC due to difficult terrain, allies and enemies in the way:[ATTACH=full]356780[/ATTACH]Example 4: 5 PCs spread over a greater area than movement allows:[ATTACH=full]356781[/ATTACH]Example 5:&nbsp; I don't think ANY PC is within range of touching another PC:[ATTACH=full]356782[/ATTACH]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9312740, member: 7030563"] As you noted I posted[I] "hours of video"[/I] of real play where a touch spell was not possible. I think that very effectively demonstrates it, whether you want to admit it or not. No it was not a snipe hunt. It was the last three D&D videos posted by this DM and I pointed out the start time for [B][U]EVERY[/U][/B] single combat in those three videos and looked at [B][U]EVERY[/U][/B] single round of combat in those 6 combats, counting which ones all PCs were within 30 feet movement of each other. If you want me to show a still grid describing a combat where PCs can't reach each other, ok, that is far easier here you go - These are grids from REAL combats played, NONE of these are a [I]"narrow hallway" [/I]and in none of them can all the PCs reach each other for a touch spell. There are PCs out of reach for a touch spell in all of these examples. Example 1: Combat with a bunch of giant spiders around and between PCs. There is 40 feet between the East and West PC, so even if the spiders weren't there they would be unreachable. [ATTACH type="full" alt="1712617329244.png"]356778[/ATTACH] Example 2 - 5 PCs with 120 feet between them fighting 5 monsters (3 off screen), also note 1 PC is frightened and can't even move towards the two in the Northwest at all. Example 3: Two Westmost PCs can't reach eastmost PC due to difficult terrain, allies and enemies in the way: [ATTACH type="full" alt="1712617627311.png"]356780[/ATTACH] Example 4: 5 PCs spread over a greater area than movement allows: [ATTACH type="full" alt="1712617822061.png"]356781[/ATTACH] Example 5: I don't think ANY PC is within range of touching another PC: [ATTACH type="full" alt="1712618125674.png"]356782[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]

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