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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Norfleet" data-source="post: 1331852" data-attributes="member: 11581">What you are saying basically proves my case: What kind of twisted, bass-ackwards world is it when a person's *STUFF* is worth more than his life? Doesn't this somehow strike you as wrong, that you can kill a player's character 30 times, and he won't get upset about it, but heaven forbid you destroy his stuff? Doesn't this somehow strike you as antithetical to a character-driven game?I think that the players you're dealing with are just a bunch of babies. In *MY* day, it was an accepted fact that soldiers didn't walk off the battlefield with all of their original equipment intact: Stuff gets used, destroyed, and ripped from the cold dead hands of the opposition.With true res comes the fact that even if you kill them, they just come back and pick up all their stuff. Clearly, the stuff has become the line of continuity, and if you expect the players to feel threatened, you have to threaten the stuff. 3E has introduced the oddly computer-gamey mechanic where the person's stuff, not the person, is what matters: It doesn't matter how many times he dies, as long as he can respawn and successfully perform a corpse run! For some reason, characters are no longer important, they're merely vehicles through which stuff is deployed. When you have a game where players will quit, not because their character was killed, but because he WASN'T killed, but lost his STUFF, something is WRONG.Besides, high-level characters should be able to make their own stuff anyway.</blockquote>

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