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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 1773766" data-attributes="member: 158">The shapers? Have you considered any of Monte's <a href="http://www.enworld.org/reviews/index.php?sub=yes&amp;where=active&amp;reviewer=GameWyrd&amp;product=Chao" target="_blank">Chaositech</a> stuff? I don't have it, but if you do, I've heard there is some very interesting material in there for &quot;bodily adaptations.&quot;The Flies? I would make a devil with VERY similar stats to a chasme, first of all. Having an extraplanar cabal for a group of epic-levels and NOT having chasme is a crime against Gygax. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Other lackeys could include Ruin Swarms from Epic Handbook - perhaps one of the devils is actually an intelligent Ruin Swarm colony?Theme for the third group - My first thought is to make them VERY different from the flesh-shapers and the flies/maggot-types; and the farthest I can think of while still being repulsive is a group of devils based on Atropals - those little aborted godlings. VERY disturbing, but perhaps TOO disturbing, a whole group of devils based on evil creatures killed before they were even born? Other thoughts are to go insectile, but that clashes too much with the fly-themed ones, or perhaps......perhaps a group of Taditional, Titivilus-inspired devils? The &quot;Old nobility&quot;? The traditional devils who really detest these crudely depraved upstarts, and are more into the &quot;refined, genteel depravity&quot; that Asmodeus used to represent? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Henry, post: 1773766, member: 158"] The shapers? Have you considered any of Monte's [URL=http://www.enworld.org/reviews/index.php?sub=yes&where=active&reviewer=GameWyrd&product=Chao]Chaositech[/URL] stuff? I don't have it, but if you do, I've heard there is some very interesting material in there for "bodily adaptations." The Flies? I would make a devil with VERY similar stats to a chasme, first of all. Having an extraplanar cabal for a group of epic-levels and NOT having chasme is a crime against Gygax. :) Other lackeys could include Ruin Swarms from Epic Handbook - perhaps one of the devils is actually an intelligent Ruin Swarm colony? Theme for the third group - My first thought is to make them VERY different from the flesh-shapers and the flies/maggot-types; and the farthest I can think of while still being repulsive is a group of devils based on Atropals - those little aborted godlings. VERY disturbing, but perhaps TOO disturbing, a whole group of devils based on evil creatures killed before they were even born? Other thoughts are to go insectile, but that clashes too much with the fly-themed ones, or perhaps... ...perhaps a group of Taditional, Titivilus-inspired devils? The "Old nobility"? The traditional devils who really detest these crudely depraved upstarts, and are more into the "refined, genteel depravity" that Asmodeus used to represent? :) [/QUOTE]

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