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<blockquote data-quote="jrtyler" data-source="post: 1806896" data-attributes="member: 4862"><p>Hey PCat, I absolutely love this thread. (I'm sorry I found it so late) One thing that might also give some really good ideas for working with the outsiders is the appendices in the Fiend Folio, especially the three Fiend Prestige Classes. Even worse, if you use Angels (or Guardinals, Eladrins, what have you) that have somewhat fallen due to their own pride and zealotry, one of the main pre-reqs of those classes is an outsider with the evil subtype (which I would definitely apply to a fallen angel, try Green Ronin's book of Fiends for templates on fallen outsiders). Imagine, a fallen archon with the fiend of possesion prestige class. He's so disgusted with the way he percieves others to be flawed in their fight against evil that he attempts to take them over, never realizing in his pride and arrogance that he himself has become evil by taking away free will. </p><p>Also, I don't know if this would apply but it's a really sick thing that I did once in a game I ran. Our sorceress had a faerie dragon familiar that got captured by the bad guys. By the time we were able to rescue it, it's wings had been torn off and a pair of mambraneous wings grafted on. The resulting insanity from having fiendish grafts put on a good creature carried partly over the empathic link putting the poor sorceress in anguish. It was pretty sick. My players hated me for that one too. Everyone loved that sweet little dragon. Hehe. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious :]" data-shortname=":]" /> </p><p></p><p>John</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jrtyler, post: 1806896, member: 4862"] Hey PCat, I absolutely love this thread. (I'm sorry I found it so late) One thing that might also give some really good ideas for working with the outsiders is the appendices in the Fiend Folio, especially the three Fiend Prestige Classes. Even worse, if you use Angels (or Guardinals, Eladrins, what have you) that have somewhat fallen due to their own pride and zealotry, one of the main pre-reqs of those classes is an outsider with the evil subtype (which I would definitely apply to a fallen angel, try Green Ronin's book of Fiends for templates on fallen outsiders). Imagine, a fallen archon with the fiend of possesion prestige class. He's so disgusted with the way he percieves others to be flawed in their fight against evil that he attempts to take them over, never realizing in his pride and arrogance that he himself has become evil by taking away free will. Also, I don't know if this would apply but it's a really sick thing that I did once in a game I ran. Our sorceress had a faerie dragon familiar that got captured by the bad guys. By the time we were able to rescue it, it's wings had been torn off and a pair of mambraneous wings grafted on. The resulting insanity from having fiendish grafts put on a good creature carried partly over the empathic link putting the poor sorceress in anguish. It was pretty sick. My players hated me for that one too. Everyone loved that sweet little dragon. Hehe. :] John [/QUOTE]
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