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<blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 2461216" data-attributes="member: 3051"><p>Yet again, I'm at work, a bit bored, and I've started thinking on this.</p><p></p><p>One question we mentioned earlier: when the gods did their big, powerful thing and banished all of the Worms to Carceri, how'd they miss two? And coincidentally, they missed a mated pair? (Okay, maybe they weren't a mated pair at the time, and worms are hermaphroditic, so the whole one-of-each-gender coincidence isn't really important if you don't want it to be.)</p><p></p><p>My thought was this: what if they didn't miss any? What if Elder and his mate were banished to Carceri, right along with all the others, and he's just the only one that had the ability to ESCAPE? Something must be holding the other worms there. Okay, if they're now an integral part of a plane, with a constant stream of worlds fed to them for consumption, then they're probably not too put out about it. But something must be preventing them from leaving, and maybe Elder's the only one who figured out a way around that. Or maybe more of the Worms COULD leave, but only Elder and Elderette chose to try coming back to Spira; the rest of the Worms could have written it off. Who knows why; unpleasant climate, hostile gods, bad access to schools and shopping...</p><p></p><p>Either way, the Eldertons come back to Spira after a few eons have passed, to try and regain power now that the gods are being less "hands on" about the place. Unfortunately, they underestimate the ability of the new inhabitants to resist, and get trapped. But time passes. Dragons get replaced by elves and later, humans as the dominant lifeform. The gods fight among themselves, while having less and less direct contact with the mortals. Elder foresees a big opportunity, as one major god will die in a way that'll disrupt things (including his prison), as well as providing a means to gain even more power.</p><p>And that's the real downside to this concept: if Elder had the ability to leave Carceri, then he also has the ability to leave Spira. So, if his kid-spawning plan fails as badly as his Imbindarla-eating one did, he could always just leave the plane.</p><p></p><p>But, this also explains one other discrepancy in the prophecies: there's just too much time to work with. That is, too much happened in between the time the rest of the Worms were banished and the time when Elder and his mate were found and imprisoned. A pantheon of gods were born, life was breathed into the world, the lizard race grew into a civilization, complete with heroes... and THEN they find two planet-devouring Worms still around? What were the two doing in the interim? How'd the gods not notice them when life was being breathed into the world? If you can say that they simply weren't there, it solves all of these.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Spatzimaus, post: 2461216, member: 3051"] Yet again, I'm at work, a bit bored, and I've started thinking on this. One question we mentioned earlier: when the gods did their big, powerful thing and banished all of the Worms to Carceri, how'd they miss two? And coincidentally, they missed a mated pair? (Okay, maybe they weren't a mated pair at the time, and worms are hermaphroditic, so the whole one-of-each-gender coincidence isn't really important if you don't want it to be.) My thought was this: what if they didn't miss any? What if Elder and his mate were banished to Carceri, right along with all the others, and he's just the only one that had the ability to ESCAPE? Something must be holding the other worms there. Okay, if they're now an integral part of a plane, with a constant stream of worlds fed to them for consumption, then they're probably not too put out about it. But something must be preventing them from leaving, and maybe Elder's the only one who figured out a way around that. Or maybe more of the Worms COULD leave, but only Elder and Elderette chose to try coming back to Spira; the rest of the Worms could have written it off. Who knows why; unpleasant climate, hostile gods, bad access to schools and shopping... Either way, the Eldertons come back to Spira after a few eons have passed, to try and regain power now that the gods are being less "hands on" about the place. Unfortunately, they underestimate the ability of the new inhabitants to resist, and get trapped. But time passes. Dragons get replaced by elves and later, humans as the dominant lifeform. The gods fight among themselves, while having less and less direct contact with the mortals. Elder foresees a big opportunity, as one major god will die in a way that'll disrupt things (including his prison), as well as providing a means to gain even more power. And that's the real downside to this concept: if Elder had the ability to leave Carceri, then he also has the ability to leave Spira. So, if his kid-spawning plan fails as badly as his Imbindarla-eating one did, he could always just leave the plane. But, this also explains one other discrepancy in the prophecies: there's just too much time to work with. That is, too much happened in between the time the rest of the Worms were banished and the time when Elder and his mate were found and imprisoned. A pantheon of gods were born, life was breathed into the world, the lizard race grew into a civilization, complete with heroes... and THEN they find two planet-devouring Worms still around? What were the two doing in the interim? How'd the gods not notice them when life was being breathed into the world? If you can say that they simply weren't there, it solves all of these. [/QUOTE]
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