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<blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 620926" data-attributes="member: 3051">It's a neat idea.But:&gt; True Seeing?&nbsp; Maybe it's just coincidence, but all the times I can think of where they ran into a polymorphed enemy (that last dragon, for example) they already had it up.&nbsp; So, while your guy is shapechanged into a loot item, they might already know, and stick him in a Bag of Holding... where he runs out of air when changing back.&gt; Identification.&nbsp; It's not very easy to figure out what an item does.&nbsp; Personally, no matter how desperate I am for a new item, I wouldn't use an item until after I checked it out.Which leads to:&gt; Bags of Holding.&nbsp; They're far more likely to just stick it in a bag until they have time to identify it right.&nbsp; Can you get out of that bag?&nbsp; More importantly, if you're carrying your own Bag of Holding, putting one inside the other still has bad effects, right?&nbsp; Even if you don't, wouldn't you suffocate when it wore off?&gt; But, if you want to try it, use a Psion.&nbsp; They have a level 5 power, Metamorphosis that acts like Polymorph Self plus allows inanimate objects.&nbsp; Much easier than waiting for level 9 spells.&gt; Or, instead of assuming the Defenders WILL pick up an item and not get suspicious, just polymorph into an insect, hide in the shadows and hitch a ride on one of them at the end of a long day.&nbsp; They probably won't have all their spells up if you do it when they're NOT fighting.&gt; The fundamental logical flaw here, though, is that some high-level wizard wants to go on a suicide mission, on the off chance that they won't check before going in the door AND that they won't defeat him anyway.Now, what you COULD do is, cover an area with some spell blocking Divinations.&nbsp; Get a bunch of Psions and Psychic Warriors.&nbsp; Polymorph Self into inconspicuous animals.&nbsp; Rats, bugs, whatever.&nbsp; The Psions with Metamorphosis could turn into rocks.&nbsp; Awfully good ambush setup... hmm, this is starting to sound less like a Ghoul tactic and more like an evil albino cannibal psionic halfling tactic.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Spatzimaus, post: 620926, member: 3051"] It's a neat idea. But: > True Seeing? Maybe it's just coincidence, but all the times I can think of where they ran into a polymorphed enemy (that last dragon, for example) they already had it up. So, while your guy is shapechanged into a loot item, they might already know, and stick him in a Bag of Holding... where he runs out of air when changing back. > Identification. It's not very easy to figure out what an item does. Personally, no matter how desperate I am for a new item, I wouldn't use an item until after I checked it out. Which leads to: > Bags of Holding. They're far more likely to just stick it in a bag until they have time to identify it right. Can you get out of that bag? More importantly, if you're carrying your own Bag of Holding, putting one inside the other still has bad effects, right? Even if you don't, wouldn't you suffocate when it wore off? > But, if you want to try it, use a Psion. They have a level 5 power, Metamorphosis that acts like Polymorph Self plus allows inanimate objects. Much easier than waiting for level 9 spells. > Or, instead of assuming the Defenders WILL pick up an item and not get suspicious, just polymorph into an insect, hide in the shadows and hitch a ride on one of them at the end of a long day. They probably won't have all their spells up if you do it when they're NOT fighting. > The fundamental logical flaw here, though, is that some high-level wizard wants to go on a suicide mission, on the off chance that they won't check before going in the door AND that they won't defeat him anyway. Now, what you COULD do is, cover an area with some spell blocking Divinations. Get a bunch of Psions and Psychic Warriors. Polymorph Self into inconspicuous animals. Rats, bugs, whatever. The Psions with Metamorphosis could turn into rocks. Awfully good ambush setup... hmm, this is starting to sound less like a Ghoul tactic and more like an evil albino cannibal psionic halfling tactic. [/QUOTE]

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