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<blockquote data-quote="Coredump" data-source="post: 6609330" data-attributes="member: 6939">This is getting tedious.&nbsp; You insist on bypassing the topic in favor of mischaracterizing my statements and making up assumptions about me.&nbsp; Please stop.&nbsp;No, that is not what I said, but I think you know that.&nbsp; The rules say you are using a sling..... the rules assume you know about what a sling is and how it operates... same as the rules assume you know about trees, and gravity, and castles, and (not) walking on water, etc.....All the evidence you have provided indicates that using a shield drastically slows you down, *and* makes the shield less effective. But you want to ignore your own evidence.If you can use a hand to hold a shield *and* to load a sling, why can't you use a hand to hold a shield *and* fire a crossbow? Or hold a shield *and* use a greatsword?&nbsp; Really?I never said (nor implied) that it broke the game.I never said nor implied that I was terrified about it.I never said nor implied that they 'missed' it in testing.I *did* say many times that the one-handed descriptor is valid, because it only takes one hand to *use* the sling, it only takes two hands to load it.As for their 'intention' during playtest.... the *RULES DESIGNER* has several comments stating that a one handed crossbow still takes 2 hands to load.So, based on what you have presented.Using a shield with a sling makes you much slowerUsing a shield with a sling makes a shield less effectiveThe rules don't support using a shield hand for 'other' actionsThe rules designer doesn't agree with your assertions.Yet you still think it should be 'easily accomplished'....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Coredump, post: 6609330, member: 6939"] This is getting tedious. You insist on bypassing the topic in favor of mischaracterizing my statements and making up assumptions about me. Please stop. No, that is not what I said, but I think you know that. The rules say you are using a sling..... the rules assume you know about what a sling is and how it operates... same as the rules assume you know about trees, and gravity, and castles, and (not) walking on water, etc..... All the evidence you have provided indicates that using a shield drastically slows you down, *and* makes the shield less effective. But you want to ignore your own evidence. If you can use a hand to hold a shield *and* to load a sling, why can't you use a hand to hold a shield *and* fire a crossbow? Or hold a shield *and* use a greatsword? Really? I never said (nor implied) that it broke the game. I never said nor implied that I was terrified about it. I never said nor implied that they 'missed' it in testing. I *did* say many times that the one-handed descriptor is valid, because it only takes one hand to *use* the sling, it only takes two hands to load it. As for their 'intention' during playtest.... the *RULES DESIGNER* has several comments stating that a one handed crossbow still takes 2 hands to load. So, based on what you have presented. Using a shield with a sling makes you much slower Using a shield with a sling makes a shield less effective The rules don't support using a shield hand for 'other' actions The rules designer doesn't agree with your assertions. Yet you still think it should be 'easily accomplished'.... [/QUOTE]

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