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Champion (new Cleric), Let me know what you think
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<blockquote data-quote="Engilbrand" data-source="post: 3203850" data-attributes="member: 44184"><p>I see that. The basic idea was for use in a game where you do 1-20 without prestiging. There are hidden bonuses with staying in the class. There are a lot of domains with abilities that can be used once per day, and a number of those rely on Cleric (Champion) level. As such, a 20th level Champion could, with a 20 for Charisma and the Strenth Domain, add 20 to his Str 8 times per day. The class is focused on domains and their powers. There's also the 0-levels, which aren't a major draw. What keeps people in the Cleric, though? Just Turn Undead? This class can get that ability if a Domain power is changed, which is something that I highly recommend. I do like the idea of another Domain at a higher level, though. With a class like this, that could be a major draw. As it stands, though, the class will theoretically have access to quite a few spells by 20 anyway. With a 30 in Wisdom, a 20th level Champion could choose from 5 different 9th level spells to cast, one of which can be ANY spell from the Cleric list. That seems pretty good.</p><p>I was actually looking at this class as something that would be focused on its domains. Entirely. Cleric PrCs are for specializing. This class is already specialized. I know, though, that there would be games where it would be used to utterly break everything. The Eberron Cleric PrC from Faiths of Eberron that gets access to 6 or so more domains, PLUS extra domain spells to cast per day, would probably ridiculously overpower this character. I don't typically believe that anything beyond special builds are overpowered/broken, but I could understand how a player who doesn't exercise restraint could shatter a game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Engilbrand, post: 3203850, member: 44184"] I see that. The basic idea was for use in a game where you do 1-20 without prestiging. There are hidden bonuses with staying in the class. There are a lot of domains with abilities that can be used once per day, and a number of those rely on Cleric (Champion) level. As such, a 20th level Champion could, with a 20 for Charisma and the Strenth Domain, add 20 to his Str 8 times per day. The class is focused on domains and their powers. There's also the 0-levels, which aren't a major draw. What keeps people in the Cleric, though? Just Turn Undead? This class can get that ability if a Domain power is changed, which is something that I highly recommend. I do like the idea of another Domain at a higher level, though. With a class like this, that could be a major draw. As it stands, though, the class will theoretically have access to quite a few spells by 20 anyway. With a 30 in Wisdom, a 20th level Champion could choose from 5 different 9th level spells to cast, one of which can be ANY spell from the Cleric list. That seems pretty good. I was actually looking at this class as something that would be focused on its domains. Entirely. Cleric PrCs are for specializing. This class is already specialized. I know, though, that there would be games where it would be used to utterly break everything. The Eberron Cleric PrC from Faiths of Eberron that gets access to 6 or so more domains, PLUS extra domain spells to cast per day, would probably ridiculously overpower this character. I don't typically believe that anything beyond special builds are overpowered/broken, but I could understand how a player who doesn't exercise restraint could shatter a game. [/QUOTE]
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