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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 2394046" data-attributes="member: 3146">In anything less that a 36 point buy game, he may not be weak but he won't be overpowering.If we assume Swashbuckler 3/Fighter 4 heading into the class and compare it to a fighter 12:With a two handed weapon, the Champion of Corellon needs to add at least 4 points of damage (2 point from Greater Weapon Focus turned into power attack and 2 points from greater weapon specialization). Realistically, the champion of Corellon will need to add slightly more than that since the need for high dexterity and int will put pressure on his strength stat.With a one-handed weapon, the Champion of Corellon only needs to add 3 points to draw even.If one assumes that the Champion of Correllon starts with the standard 15 14 13 12 10 8 array and puts 14 in con (because, let's face it, he has to live to do damage, 15 in dex, 13 in strength, and 12 in int (leaving a 10 and an 8 for wisdom and charisma), it adds up to 2 points before enhancement bonusses are applied. But, if we assume that he gets a +6 headband of intellect and +6 gloves of dex, then it adds up to 8 extra points of damage at an additional cost of 68,000gp vis a vis the adamantine fullplate fighter (who we may assume uses gloves of dex +2).If the adamantine fullplate fighter adds an extra +2 of enhancement equivalents to his weapon instead the cost will not exceed 72,000gp (from a +8 equivalent to a +10 equivalent weapon). Now, straight up enhancement bonusses would reduce the difference by two points  and leave the fighter with only a 2 point deficit which he could easily eliminate by power attacking for two more points (which actually leaves him 2 points ahead of the CoC in damage) or simply by getting 1.5x str on a much higher strength bonus. If the fighter assumes that both characters' weapons will be GMWed to +5 anyway, the fighter can still add Holy, Wounding, or a pair of elemental enhancements to the weapon which will easily exceed the 6 points of damage he got from power attack and enhancment bonus.So, unless the Champion of Corellon has really good stats, he won't be blowing a strength-based fighter out of the water. But, if you allow really good stats.... watch out! By the time you hit 36 point buy, the Champion of Corellon can expect to get four additional points of damage out of his secondary stats, putting him solidly ahead of the fighter.</blockquote>

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