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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BkMamba" data-source="post: 3416435" data-attributes="member: 50861">And you believe all of the people in Spider-man's Rogue's Gallery are all tougher then him? When Spider-man and Doc Oct are trading blows and Spidey is getting hit or grabbed you think this is because Doc Oct is PL 15 and Spidey is only PL 10? Electro, Doc Oct, Lizard, Vulture, and others are all right around the same power level as Spider-man. When Spidey is not specifically dodging he is susceptable to getting hit by people of equal power level. When you see Spider-man fighting someone more powerful them him - and I only consider Thing a couple of Ranks higher then Spidey - he is using Combat Maneuvers and Hero Points to try and stay alive and gain some advantage. And I do not know how your Thing is built but I know mine would find it nearly impossible to hit a 27-30 Defense Spider-man before we ever include any Powers like Displacement or Deflect from my post above. And you are assuming those foes do not also have a low Attack in M&M? If Rhino has a low OCV in HERO he will also have a low Attack in M&M. There is no difference in character design. Rhino does not become a kung fu master when attacking just because he is built in M&M. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>