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<blockquote data-quote="Clint_L" data-source="post: 8903212" data-attributes="member: 7035894">It can already be part of the game world. So now I am wondering what the entire purpose of this thread is. To try to make it so people at other tables are forced to consider something that you happen to like? Like, you want it specially mentioned to affirm your preferences or something?Players are completely allowed to include beauty as part of why their character is or isn't charismatic. DMs are completely allowed to mandate whatever they want at their table. You have not presented one iota of argument beyond your personal preference, and the fact that you describe beauty as &quot;the most obvious part of its definition&quot; is telling. Most people on this thread are telling you that we completely disagree with that definition. What is &quot;obvious&quot; to you is clearly not &quot;obvious&quot; to many other people. Can you accept that? Do you think we are lying?So given that, please explain why we are all wrong and the rules of the game need to not only allow for your view of the world, but be rewritten to specially accommodate it. And given that it is an obviously contentious issue, as you admit in your first post, what good comes from trying to force it on other people? What makes your particular view of the world so special?Maybe the rules should be rewritten to reflect my view of charisma, so that beauty is specifically excluded as a factor. Except, no, I wouldn't want that, because I can see that you wouldn't agree. So let's just leave it alone. The current rule lets everyone interpret it as they see fit. Freedom!Final edit: I think we are going in circles at this point, and I've stated my opinion. I am pretty confident that the game will continue moving towards being less prescriptive not more, so it's a moot point anyway.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Clint_L, post: 8903212, member: 7035894"] It can already be part of the game world. So now I am wondering what the entire purpose of this thread is. To try to make it so people at other tables are forced to consider something that you happen to like? Like, you want it [I]specially[/I] mentioned to affirm your preferences or something? Players are completely allowed to include beauty as part of why their character is or isn't charismatic. DMs are completely allowed to mandate whatever they want at their table. You have not presented one iota of argument beyond your personal preference, and the fact that you describe beauty as "the most obvious part of its definition" is telling. Most people on this thread are telling you that [I]we completely disagree[/I] with that definition. What is "obvious" to you is clearly not "obvious" to many other people. Can you accept that? Do you think we are lying? So given that, please explain why we are all wrong and the rules of the game need to not only allow for your view of the world, but be rewritten to specially accommodate it. And given that it is an obviously contentious issue, [I]as you admit in your first post,[/I] what good comes from trying to force it on other people? What makes your particular view of the world so special? Maybe the rules should be rewritten to reflect my view of charisma, so that beauty is [I]specifically excluded[/I] as a factor. Except, no, I wouldn't want that, because I can see that you wouldn't agree. So let's just leave it alone. The current rule lets everyone interpret it as they see fit. Freedom! Final edit: I think we are going in circles at this point, and I've stated my opinion. I am pretty confident that the game will continue moving towards being less prescriptive not more, so it's a moot point anyway. [/QUOTE]

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