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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 8921638" data-attributes="member: 85555">I don't know what the current description of Charisma is, but this has always been the way I've handled it. It can include beauty, and I wouldn't mind a player explaining their Charisma as largely being a product of physical appearance, but you have to account for the Steve Buscemi's of the world (and to be clear I don't think he is an ugly man but by hollywood standards he is more in the realm of striking than handsome). And Charisma as we use it in the real world usually doesn't address looks that much. It can but it is mostly about a person having a certain presence and ability to captivate others. It is about attractiveness in a very broad sense, not a strictly physical sense. And as you point out, a very good looking person can have a flat, uncharismatic personality (I think we can all conjure up celebrities who fit that description, who most would agree are beautiful or handsome but who don't have attractive personalities or any kind of presence). When I think of great actors and actresses it is the thing that separates them from other people in the profession. Looks may be a factor but it really boils down to their presence that gives them that star power. I would say the same thing about politicians. Looks can certainly be a part of the mix (there is no shortage of politicians with hair that is too perfect and chiseled features) but you can also point to politicians who don't have any of that but somehow can have command over a crowd. I also think when it comes to charisma, in terms of physical things alone, it isn't just about how attractive a person is. It can also be about how kind a persons eyes are, how they carry themselves, if their expression seems energized or depleted, etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 8921638, member: 85555"] I don't know what the current description of Charisma is, but this has always been the way I've handled it. It can include beauty, and I wouldn't mind a player explaining their Charisma as largely being a product of physical appearance, but you have to account for the Steve Buscemi's of the world (and to be clear I don't think he is an ugly man but by hollywood standards he is more in the realm of striking than handsome). And Charisma as we use it in the real world usually doesn't address looks that much. It can but it is mostly about a person having a certain presence and ability to captivate others. It is about attractiveness in a very broad sense, not a strictly physical sense. And as you point out, a very good looking person can have a flat, uncharismatic personality (I think we can all conjure up celebrities who fit that description, who most would agree are beautiful or handsome but who don't have attractive personalities or any kind of presence). When I think of great actors and actresses it is the thing that separates them from other people in the profession. Looks may be a factor but it really boils down to their presence that gives them that star power. I would say the same thing about politicians. Looks can certainly be a part of the mix (there is no shortage of politicians with hair that is too perfect and chiseled features) but you can also point to politicians who don't have any of that but somehow can have command over a crowd. I also think when it comes to charisma, in terms of physical things alone, it isn't just about how attractive a person is. It can also be about how kind a persons eyes are, how they carry themselves, if their expression seems energized or depleted, etc. [/QUOTE]

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