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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8927595" data-attributes="member: 7030563">Beauty should be like height, weight or hair color.&nbsp; It should not be tied to your ability scores IMO.&nbsp; You choose how beautiful your character is when you make them and based on the artwork or token you select to depict them.&nbsp; It also should have nothing directly related to skill checks, although you can include a thematic element.&nbsp; Give him or her advantage on persuasion if trying to seduce someone, just like you might give your 8-foot Barbarian advantage on intimidation based on height.&nbsp; In either case though it is the charisma that determines the success.&nbsp; Your 8-charisma beauty just fails awfully at trying to flirt with a low roll.There are plenty of people out there that are prettier than Sting, Cher or Tina Turner who are not famous artists.&nbsp; It is not beauty that made them famous, and I would argue Kenny Rogers and Garth Brooks were/are not particularly good looking, while Mick Jagger, Alice Cooper and Marilyn Manson are downright &quot;ugly&quot; based on most peoples opinion of looks.A Charismatic person would know how to cash in that beauty and become famous, or alternatively cash in on looking old and wise, or cash in on .....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8927595, member: 7030563"] Beauty should be like height, weight or hair color. It should not be tied to your ability scores IMO. You choose how beautiful your character is when you make them and based on the artwork or token you select to depict them. It also should have nothing directly related to skill checks, although you can include a thematic element. Give him or her advantage on persuasion if trying to seduce someone, just like you might give your 8-foot Barbarian advantage on intimidation based on height. In either case though it is the charisma that determines the success. Your 8-charisma beauty just fails awfully at trying to flirt with a low roll. There are plenty of people out there that are prettier than Sting, Cher or Tina Turner who are not famous artists. It is not beauty that made them famous, and I would argue Kenny Rogers and Garth Brooks were/are not particularly good looking, while Mick Jagger, Alice Cooper and Marilyn Manson are downright "ugly" based on most peoples opinion of looks. A Charismatic person would know how to cash in that beauty and become famous, or alternatively cash in on looking old and wise, or cash in on ..... [/QUOTE]

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