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<blockquote data-quote="toucanbuzz" data-source="post: 8677114" data-attributes="member: 19270"><p>I saw this <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/list-of-o5e-spells-that-have-been-changed-in-some-way.683903/" target="_blank">thread awhile back</a> and no followup about spells that were changed. So, I compared, dividing the spell changes into:</p><p></p><p><strong>Major </strong>(overhaul and/or major change in gameplay). Included a summary of the changes, not the entire spell.</p><p><strong>Minor </strong>(1-2 changes, largely the same spell, mostly "cast at higher level" spells). Included summary of changes.</p><p><strong>New</strong></p><p><strong>Removed</strong></p><p><strong>No Changes</strong> (cosmetic)</p><p></p><p>If you see any errors or have suggestions, feel free to offer up.</p><p></p><p>To the designers, I noticed a couple incongruities and/or had a couple questions.</p><p></p><p>(1) Raise Dead/Resurrection. One uses A5E rules on penalties while recovering, the other 5E rules (the -4 penalty).</p><p>(2) Prismatic Spray/Prismatic Wall. One uses A5E changes to petrification (reducing to 2 saves), the other 5E rules (3 saves).</p><p>(3) Polymorph. My players have a tactic of polymorphing nasty enemies like giants into snails, then flying them into the air and dropping them from great heights. At 0hp, polymorph says they go unconscious. Does this mean they do not need to make a "massive damage/instant death" save?</p><p></p><p><em>EDIT: moved Irresistible Dance (Otto's) to major changes.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="toucanbuzz, post: 8677114, member: 19270"] I saw this [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/list-of-o5e-spells-that-have-been-changed-in-some-way.683903/']thread awhile back[/URL] and no followup about spells that were changed. So, I compared, dividing the spell changes into: [B]Major [/B](overhaul and/or major change in gameplay). Included a summary of the changes, not the entire spell. [B]Minor [/B](1-2 changes, largely the same spell, mostly "cast at higher level" spells). Included summary of changes. [B]New Removed No Changes[/B] (cosmetic) If you see any errors or have suggestions, feel free to offer up. To the designers, I noticed a couple incongruities and/or had a couple questions. (1) Raise Dead/Resurrection. One uses A5E rules on penalties while recovering, the other 5E rules (the -4 penalty). (2) Prismatic Spray/Prismatic Wall. One uses A5E changes to petrification (reducing to 2 saves), the other 5E rules (3 saves). (3) Polymorph. My players have a tactic of polymorphing nasty enemies like giants into snails, then flying them into the air and dropping them from great heights. At 0hp, polymorph says they go unconscious. Does this mean they do not need to make a "massive damage/instant death" save? [I]EDIT: moved Irresistible Dance (Otto's) to major changes.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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