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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1348171" data-attributes="member: 1656">Damage is, among other things, defined as "A decrease in hit points caused by a magical effect".Does this mean that if someone loses two points of Con to a Poison spell, the decrease in hit points - caused by a magical effect - they incur as a result of a lower Con bonus is considered "damage"?If that same Poison spell causes a 20th level character to lose 6 points of Con, is he considered to have taken 60 points of damage from a single attack... breaking the Massive Damage threshold?If the same character removes his +6 Amulet of Health, his hit points drop by 60 in a single go, just as if he'd been hit by the Poison spell... but not as the result of an attack.  Is there any difference?If, instead, an opponent uses a Disarm or Sunder action to remove or destroy the belt, the charactr loses 6 points of Con and therefore 60 hit points as the result of an attack.  Same question.-Hyp.</blockquote>