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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Shadow" data-source="post: 6004328" data-attributes="member: 16760">Yes, it was.  No question.  Neither can be described as an organic development from what came before;  and both were bitterly resisted by some.  I just happen to, on the whole, like the changes of 3e better than those of 4e.Okay, you're unsympathetic.  And you gave reasons why, I acknowledge - I just disagree with them. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I was extremely excited for 4e.  I followed every bit of information with bated breath.  I was not at all predisposed to dislike it.  In fact, I was viewing just about everything about it in the most positive light possible.But (what I regard as) some boneheaded marketing moves on WotC's part threw a monkey-wrench in the works, and I lost my momentum.  I was still interested in 4e, and wanted to like it... but I was definitely vastly less enthused.  I still had a sour taste in my mouth.When the game finally came out, it wasn't to my taste, and in all honesty, it probably wouldn't have been to my taste regardless of anything they said or did.  But shooting themselves in the foot did nothing to help, that's for sure.This time around, I was also extremely excited.  The long waiting caused that to die down a bit, but when the playtest packets came out, it revived somewhat.  And this time around, all I can say is, their attitude seems to be different.  Humbler, for one.  No doubt they have all sorts of business reasons to strike that attitude, but nonetheless it comes across well.They may yet change their tune, they may yet screw up.  There's no telling.  But so far, they aren't shooting themselves in the foot from where I sit.And yes, it may well be that they alienated 2e players in the 3e launch too.  I don't remember that well, as I had pretty much moved on from 2e to other games at the time.  In fact, I didn't really follow the 3e launch much at all, and was pleasantly surprised with what I saw when it came out.</blockquote>

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