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<blockquote data-quote="The Shadow" data-source="post: 6005921" data-attributes="member: 16760">I'm interested in your perspective.&nbsp; Could you give some examples?I myself started in the early 80's, quit somewhere in the mid-90's for other games, got interested again with 3e (though didn't have the opportunity to play much), and was turned off by 4e.See, I've been playing D&amp;D since you were 5, yet I wouldn't describe myself exactly as a grognard.&nbsp; I feel no desire to actually play AD&amp;D again.&nbsp; Nothing would induce me to look at a THAC0 table again.And yet... and yet.&nbsp; I do feel like something has been lost since that time, and it's not just my own youthful enthusiasm.&nbsp; I find it hard to describe, but it's got something to do with over-codification of rules, which leave less room for off-the-cuff GM calls.&nbsp; And yet I also know why 3e did a lot of the codifying it did;&nbsp; the unified mechanic was direly needed, but it also inclined itself to be used all over the place.Hearing you describe the differences you see may help me clarify my own thoughts.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Shadow, post: 6005921, member: 16760"] I'm interested in your perspective. Could you give some examples? I myself started in the early 80's, quit somewhere in the mid-90's for other games, got interested again with 3e (though didn't have the opportunity to play much), and was turned off by 4e. See, I've been playing D&D since you were 5, yet I wouldn't describe myself exactly as a grognard. I feel no desire to actually play AD&D again. Nothing would induce me to look at a THAC0 table again. And yet... and yet. I do feel like something has been lost since that time, and it's not just my own youthful enthusiasm. I find it hard to describe, but it's got something to do with over-codification of rules, which leave less room for off-the-cuff GM calls. And yet I also know why 3e did a lot of the codifying it did; the unified mechanic was direly needed, but it also inclined itself to be used all over the place. Hearing you describe the differences you see may help me clarify my own thoughts. [/QUOTE]

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