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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 6011044" data-attributes="member: 463"><p>I agree with Kobold Stew. 4e may have been a development of 3e, but I find that the two play very, very differently. I've never found 3e intuitively very different from pre-3e in how it plays, except at high level when it 'breaks'. My Pathfinder Beginner Box campaign in particular, by losing a few things such as Attacks of Opportunity, plays very like my 1e AD&amp;D or Labyrinth Lord campaigns. My 4e campaign is a different kettle of fish; the dynamics of the game are very different from any previous D&amp;D, and trying to shoehorn it into the old paradigm is a recipe for unhappiness.&nbsp; Eg I find exploration-based play is the heart of all pre-4e D&amp;D, but 4e works best with exploration de-emphasised in exchange for more of a scene-framing approach. Instead of exploring a labyrinth, you 'skip to the fun' and fight the minotaur (10th level Solo Brute). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 6011044, member: 463"] I agree with Kobold Stew. 4e may have been a development of 3e, but I find that the two play very, very differently. I've never found 3e intuitively very different from pre-3e in how it plays, except at high level when it 'breaks'. My Pathfinder Beginner Box campaign in particular, by losing a few things such as Attacks of Opportunity, plays very like my 1e AD&D or Labyrinth Lord campaigns. My 4e campaign is a different kettle of fish; the dynamics of the game are very different from any previous D&D, and trying to shoehorn it into the old paradigm is a recipe for unhappiness. Eg I find exploration-based play is the heart of all pre-4e D&D, but 4e works best with exploration de-emphasised in exchange for more of a scene-framing approach. Instead of exploring a labyrinth, you 'skip to the fun' and fight the minotaur (10th level Solo Brute). :) [/QUOTE]

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