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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 6011069" data-attributes="member: 463"><p>IME, with pre-3e D&amp;D those spells are both rarely enough used, and sufficiently vaguely worded, that they don't really get in the way of Dramatist play. My AD&amp;D online game is pretty heavily Dramatist, in the GDS sense, and spell use has IME tended to support rather than undermine that. In the last but one session, a Druid PC's use of spells (speak with animals, call lightning et al), assisted me in scene framing and action resolution, and created some interesting questions about magic, nature and monotheism... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> (it's a setting with a monotheist quasi-Christian Great Church where the old Druidic faith is occasionally persecuted, yet Wizardry is normally tolerated&nbsp; - so the character is a sort of ambiguous 'wise man' advisor to a family of gentry; he takes long morning walks then prays at Chapel; as long as he can maintain this ambiguous position he's respected as something between a Cleric and a Magic-User by the NPCs and other PCs).</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 6011069, member: 463"] IME, with pre-3e D&D those spells are both rarely enough used, and sufficiently vaguely worded, that they don't really get in the way of Dramatist play. My AD&D online game is pretty heavily Dramatist, in the GDS sense, and spell use has IME tended to support rather than undermine that. In the last but one session, a Druid PC's use of spells (speak with animals, call lightning et al), assisted me in scene framing and action resolution, and created some interesting questions about magic, nature and monotheism... :D (it's a setting with a monotheist quasi-Christian Great Church where the old Druidic faith is occasionally persecuted, yet Wizardry is normally tolerated - so the character is a sort of ambiguous 'wise man' advisor to a family of gentry; he takes long morning walks then prays at Chapel; as long as he can maintain this ambiguous position he's respected as something between a Cleric and a Magic-User by the NPCs and other PCs). [/QUOTE]

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