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Message: <blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 6013751" data-attributes="member: 3400">You're starting to sound like a critic of 4e and the table on DMG page 42. After all, they way it is presented (whether or not that was what they meant), it's based on the level of the character (or party or whatever) involved. The example included is about an 8th level character swinging from a chandelier. The DC is set based on an easy difficulty for an 8th level character. So... a 1st level character would, presumably, have a lower DC (though not necessarily an easier time of it).Now the description of how to use that table may have been lacking the fairly critical perspective Rodney Thompson provided about a year later. But I hope you understand that for those of us who weren't enamored of many of 4e's other mechanics, waiting a year for some kind of WotCean exegesis of their texts to find out what they meant wasn't really acceptable.</blockquote>