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<blockquote data-quote="Iosue" data-source="post: 6013966" data-attributes="member: 6680772">I'm a BECMI and 4e player, so I'm certainly not one to say that monsters should function just like characters.&nbsp; But to say that a recurring monster can't ever get better and stronger, especially if we're talking the length of time for characters to go up 5 levels, well, that's a little too metagame even for me.&nbsp; So, no, monsters don't get XP.&nbsp; But their whole lives are an adventure, so it seems perfectly cromulent to me that they can gain HD and improve AC.&nbsp; After all, somehow that BECMI Goblin King went from 1-1 HD to 3 HD, and likewise his bodyguards from 1-1 HD to 2-12 HP (with 2 HD combat abilities).I think that's something entirely up to playstyle, and has nothing to do with mechanics, 4e or otherwise.&nbsp; All the monsters in 4e monster books have one level listed, and there's nothing stopping a DM from simply following those levels, and never changing them.&nbsp; Likewise, if I want to stock my BD&amp;D dungeon with a slightly stronger wight, there's nothing stopping me from upping it's HD and bumping its AC.&nbsp; Both options are entirely within the scope and spirit of the rules.Well, I thought we could have a civil discussion about this, but I guess not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Iosue, post: 6013966, member: 6680772"] I'm a BECMI and 4e player, so I'm certainly not one to say that monsters should function just like characters. But to say that a recurring monster can't ever get better and stronger, especially if we're talking the length of time for characters to go up 5 levels, well, that's a little too metagame even for me. So, no, monsters don't get XP. But their whole lives are an adventure, so it seems perfectly cromulent to me that they can gain HD and improve AC. After all, somehow that BECMI Goblin King went from 1-1 HD to 3 HD, and likewise his bodyguards from 1-1 HD to 2-12 HP (with 2 HD combat abilities). I think that's something entirely up to playstyle, and has nothing to do with mechanics, 4e or otherwise. All the monsters in 4e monster books have one level listed, and there's nothing stopping a DM from simply following those levels, and never changing them. Likewise, if I want to stock my BD&D dungeon with a slightly stronger wight, there's nothing stopping me from upping it's HD and bumping its AC. Both options are entirely within the scope and spirit of the rules. Well, I thought we could have a civil discussion about this, but I guess not. [/QUOTE]

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