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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6015986" data-attributes="member: 42582">I also share your curiosity and experience the same dissonance between my own experience and what others describe or attribute to the rulebooks.I think there are some mechanical infelicities here, though, which I have experienced in play, and which the rules could do more to help with.Consider the DC to see through a hag's disguise using Insight. This is set high enough (generally, Hard DC of the hag's level +5) to provide a real challenge to task resolution. Which is fine. But won't work if incorporated into a skill challenge (too high! it will muck up the maths).Bluff DCs are similar - work well for opposed checks in task resolution, too high for skill challenges.The solution that I use is to use skill challenge appropriate DCs, and require multiple successful checks before the full details (of the lie, of the hag's identity, etc) come out in the course of resolution.But I can see how this sort of thing, which the rules don't really deal with at all, can cause some confusion and/or dislike of the system.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6015986, member: 42582"] I also share your curiosity and experience the same dissonance between my own experience and what others describe or attribute to the rulebooks. I think there are some mechanical infelicities here, though, which I have experienced in play, and which the rules could do more to help with. Consider the DC to see through a hag's disguise using Insight. This is set high enough (generally, Hard DC of the hag's level +5) to provide a real challenge to task resolution. Which is fine. But won't work if incorporated into a skill challenge (too high! it will muck up the maths). Bluff DCs are similar - work well for opposed checks in task resolution, too high for skill challenges. The solution that I use is to use skill challenge appropriate DCs, and require multiple successful checks before the full details (of the lie, of the hag's identity, etc) come out in the course of resolution. But I can see how this sort of thing, which the rules don't really deal with at all, can cause some confusion and/or dislike of the system. [/QUOTE]

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