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<blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 6017389" data-attributes="member: 6668292"><p>If I say "my hand hurts" and then the doctor cuts it off, I'm going to be mad that not only did he make my problem worse, he's telling me "but now your hand doesn't hurt."</p><p></p><p>People have every right to complain about WotC telling them their game was broken when they complained about mild aches and lost a limb for it. To some people, the game was "broken" to the point that it was unplayable. I didn't have that experience, but I can see where they're coming from. To others, though, the game had problems, but was very playable.</p><p></p><p>It's like what's going on now with 5e. A lot of people who love 4e understandably initially hoped 5e would be a cleaned up 4e that fixed the problems they had. They had a few aches. Now, they're afraid to they're going to lose a limb. And I understand why they feel that way, even if I don't share the same sentiment myself.</p><p></p><p>Again, though, WotC "fixed" problems that either helped groups (many people love 4e, and I get why they do), or it hurt them (many people reject 4e, and I understand why they do). I'd agree with you if everyone complained that "3e is broken and nobody can play it." But, that wasn't the case. To one group, you cut their arm off to stop the ache in their hand; to another, you gave them a kickass cybernetic arm that can beat up robots.</p><p></p><p>For that first group, though, I think they have the right to complain, especially during feedback on 5e, where people are bringing up past edition "mistakes" and "fixes". I think they certainly do have that right. As always, play what you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JamesonCourage, post: 6017389, member: 6668292"] If I say "my hand hurts" and then the doctor cuts it off, I'm going to be mad that not only did he make my problem worse, he's telling me "but now your hand doesn't hurt." People have every right to complain about WotC telling them their game was broken when they complained about mild aches and lost a limb for it. To some people, the game was "broken" to the point that it was unplayable. I didn't have that experience, but I can see where they're coming from. To others, though, the game had problems, but was very playable. It's like what's going on now with 5e. A lot of people who love 4e understandably initially hoped 5e would be a cleaned up 4e that fixed the problems they had. They had a few aches. Now, they're afraid to they're going to lose a limb. And I understand why they feel that way, even if I don't share the same sentiment myself. Again, though, WotC "fixed" problems that either helped groups (many people love 4e, and I get why they do), or it hurt them (many people reject 4e, and I understand why they do). I'd agree with you if everyone complained that "3e is broken and nobody can play it." But, that wasn't the case. To one group, you cut their arm off to stop the ache in their hand; to another, you gave them a kickass cybernetic arm that can beat up robots. For that first group, though, I think they have the right to complain, especially during feedback on 5e, where people are bringing up past edition "mistakes" and "fixes". I think they certainly do have that right. As always, play what you like :) [/QUOTE]
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