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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6017779" data-attributes="member: 6696971">@<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/members/pemerton.html" target="_blank">pemerton</a> I often forget to include the fundamentals of the framework of Skill Challenges, as I find them implicit, but I should include them on every post as it appears that there is a large contingency of people who do not understand the fundamentals.  You seem to always do so and it appears helpful to dialogue so it may be a good idea to hammer home the following routinely. If I want to resolve a conflict of any variety (in this case an exploratory conflict) where stakes are involved, there are three dynamics that will be at work at the table: - WHEN is the conflict formally resolved? When the PCs reach their x number of success or their y number of failures. - By WHAT vessel does the fiction emerge and how empowering is that vessel? By the use of genre-logic and fiction-first interpretation of each succuess/failure (not linear process-simulation) that leads to genre-relevant, dynamic interchange between PCs and DMs. I (and I know this is not the standard, but it is not strictly forbidden) allow, and sometimes demand, that my PCs narrate the results of a specific roll. I pro-actively take the reins of the fictional culmination of their words (derived by the amalgamation of the fictional content preceeding the skill roll, the skill roll brought to bear to interact with that fictional content, and the pass/fail of that skill roll), create a new micro-conflict to resolve (again using fiction-first, genre-logic within the greater framework) and they react. This interchange continues until the conflict is resolved and the narrative is formally sculpted. - HOW well does that conflict resolution vessel capture the feel, spirit and conventions of the genre trope you're attempting to emulate/reproduce? The structure and the use of dynamic interpretation of results and subsequent narrative sculpting through fiction-first, genre-logic works as well as I could hope for in capturing the genre trope that is aimed at when the challenge is contrived. The Skill Challenge framework, as a narrative-sculpting pacing mechanism, answers each of those questions tangibly. It doesn't just hint at a framework that vaguely alludes to a formula. It is a formula.</blockquote>

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