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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RangerWickett" data-source="post: 8063774" data-attributes="member: 63">The one game I felt handled this pretty well was Conan d20, way back in, I dunno, 2007 or something? Armor provided DR (as high as 10 with plate), but did not improve your AC (called Defense). Instead, your Defense was based on your skill at parrying or dodging, which improved by level.With a finesse weapon if you rolled high enough you could ignore the DR. Most people in plate armor would also be wielding a shield, which they could parry with, but they can't do that if you grappled them. Also, in a grapple you can only use light weapons, so if you go up against a man in plate armor, it's probably impossible to bash through the armor, and really hard to hit at all if he keeps dodging, but if you can manage to grapple him, it gets a lot easier to shank him with a dagger.</blockquote>