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<blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 3742163" data-attributes="member: 15538">I don't like the ad hoc Ice Devils are really demons but we fudged it, so they're devils.That's actually from the AD&amp;D 2e Hell book.... the Ice Devils were originally rulers of a small plane that was conquered in primeval times by the devils. However, in 3e, succubi were also odd men out... fallen angels, who ended up settling in the Abyss for whatever reason and continued to breed true as a race.I like the general sound of things... however, I don't think devils should be too human-like. I think some of them should be really strange. I think the distinction is that devils should embody &quot;sins&quot; or specific forms of horror, demons should just be horrific and inimical.There is one thing about this that cheeses me off... I recently acquired and really like the two Fiendish Codices. Those books claimed they would be considered canonical going forward... well, that lasted a few months!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pawsplay, post: 3742163, member: 15538"] [i]I don't like the ad hoc Ice Devils are really demons but we fudged it, so they're devils.[/i] That's actually from the AD&D 2e Hell book.... the Ice Devils were originally rulers of a small plane that was conquered in primeval times by the devils. However, in 3e, succubi were also odd men out... fallen angels, who ended up settling in the Abyss for whatever reason and continued to breed true as a race. I like the general sound of things... however, I don't think devils should be too human-like. I think some of them should be really strange. I think the distinction is that devils should embody "sins" or specific forms of horror, demons should just be horrific and inimical. There is one thing about this that cheeses me off... I recently acquired and really like the two Fiendish Codices. Those books claimed they would be considered canonical going forward... well, that lasted a few months! [/QUOTE]

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