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<blockquote data-quote="kenmarable" data-source="post: 3742600" data-attributes="member: 40359"><p>Yeah, I think the succubi/erinyes issue is the one that bothers me the most. If they seem too similar then work on a way to make them more unique, don't just lump them together and call it done. I suppose pit fiends and balors are probably easily combined as well. I can probably list quite a number of "very similar" classics that would get plenty of people up in arms.</p><p></p><p>Heck, most of the dragons are all pretty similar just different breath weapons, right? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I would <strong>greatly</strong> prefer not lumping those two together, or at the very least not shifting succubi over to being a devil to fit a rule that "devils look human, demons look weird". While that's a fine rule in general, I think moving the succubi over is taking it a bit too far and is a mechanic change that outright contradicts decades of fluff. It would be far more interesting to keep both but work to make them unique and different. Yeah, succubi don't look like freaky weird monsters, but how are they more chaotic/demonic in the actions and abilities and how are erinyes more lawful/devilish? Make them interesting, don't just lump them together because they happen to fit the same stereotype!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kenmarable, post: 3742600, member: 40359"] Yeah, I think the succubi/erinyes issue is the one that bothers me the most. If they seem too similar then work on a way to make them more unique, don't just lump them together and call it done. I suppose pit fiends and balors are probably easily combined as well. I can probably list quite a number of "very similar" classics that would get plenty of people up in arms. Heck, most of the dragons are all pretty similar just different breath weapons, right? ;) I would [b]greatly[/b] prefer not lumping those two together, or at the very least not shifting succubi over to being a devil to fit a rule that "devils look human, demons look weird". While that's a fine rule in general, I think moving the succubi over is taking it a bit too far and is a mechanic change that outright contradicts decades of fluff. It would be far more interesting to keep both but work to make them unique and different. Yeah, succubi don't look like freaky weird monsters, but how are they more chaotic/demonic in the actions and abilities and how are erinyes more lawful/devilish? Make them interesting, don't just lump them together because they happen to fit the same stereotype! [/QUOTE]
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