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<blockquote data-quote="DarthDiablo" data-source="post: 3744378" data-attributes="member: 55048"><p>Alignment is getting on overhaul, so I'm guessing they need more distinction between Demons & Devils other than LE/CE.</p><p></p><p>The Designers have already said they are returning to more mythological roots (e.g. Thor was mentioned as a possible core God) so I can see why Devils are becoming more Judeo-Christian. Lucifer & his rebel angels were kicked out of heaven for betraying God (not to mention the Sin of Pride). Perhaps they will use the 7 Deadly Sins as more fluff for the Devils. Layer 1 of Hell could be the Gateway, 2-8 each representing a Deadly Sin with layer 9 being Asmodeus' "capitol" of Hell. This could also see the Erinyes return in a "Wrath" form.</p><p></p><p>The designers have also stated they are creating monsters to be more encounter-specific, so they won't have 2 monsters fitting the same role. Erinyes were looking too much like the Devil clone of a Succubus, so I can see why they only want 1 Fiend temptress. However, I too would like to see them return as spirits of vengence & destruction.</p><p></p><p>For those who are concerned about the "Blood War", that was a 2nd Edition invention, a battle between the Tann'ari & Baatezu. In 1st Edition it never existed. Demons lived in the Abyss & Devils lived in Hell. Baator did not exist. Neither were known to cross over into the others domain. If 4th edition removes the Blood War & it makes you fell Sloth, Envy or Wrath, just keep it in your campaign.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DarthDiablo, post: 3744378, member: 55048"] Alignment is getting on overhaul, so I'm guessing they need more distinction between Demons & Devils other than LE/CE. The Designers have already said they are returning to more mythological roots (e.g. Thor was mentioned as a possible core God) so I can see why Devils are becoming more Judeo-Christian. Lucifer & his rebel angels were kicked out of heaven for betraying God (not to mention the Sin of Pride). Perhaps they will use the 7 Deadly Sins as more fluff for the Devils. Layer 1 of Hell could be the Gateway, 2-8 each representing a Deadly Sin with layer 9 being Asmodeus' "capitol" of Hell. This could also see the Erinyes return in a "Wrath" form. The designers have also stated they are creating monsters to be more encounter-specific, so they won't have 2 monsters fitting the same role. Erinyes were looking too much like the Devil clone of a Succubus, so I can see why they only want 1 Fiend temptress. However, I too would like to see them return as spirits of vengence & destruction. For those who are concerned about the "Blood War", that was a 2nd Edition invention, a battle between the Tann'ari & Baatezu. In 1st Edition it never existed. Demons lived in the Abyss & Devils lived in Hell. Baator did not exist. Neither were known to cross over into the others domain. If 4th edition removes the Blood War & it makes you fell Sloth, Envy or Wrath, just keep it in your campaign. [/QUOTE]
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