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<blockquote data-quote="Aaron L" data-source="post: 3745341" data-attributes="member: 926">Weird.&nbsp; This is the exact reason why I DO like it very much.Having dragons in a game without using any of the cultural information or details about dragons would be silly.The exact same thing goes for devils.&nbsp; And angels.&nbsp; I am extremely glad that now devils are more than just &quot;lawful monster aliens from another plane&quot; and are now, in fact, Devils.I very much hope that an equal amount of thought is put into demons.You can keep baatezu in 2E, and let me forget the horribly lame concept of Blood War was ever thought up and finally have real devils and demons after mortal souls instead of fighting each other over metagame alignment issues.&quot;I gather mortal's souls through temptation, bargaining, and contracts.&quot;&quot;Well, I prefer to obtain souls by ripping them from the bodies of mortals in a mindless rampage!)&quot;That's SO WRONG!&nbsp;&nbsp; RAWR!!!&nbsp; WAR FOR ALL ETERNITY!!&quot;&nbsp; (Meanwhile, the whole thing about them being monsters after our souls is kinda forgotten about because they are to busy fighting each other to even care about souls.)And thank goodness (or evilness, as the case may be) that, by this description, devils at least are no longer the &quot;promoted&quot; souls of mortal beings.&nbsp; I despised that idea.&nbsp; Let's get back to having demons and devils (and liches!) devouring souls, and not being recycled from them like aluminum cans.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (Ugh, the &quot;equally shoehorned for all settings&quot; cosmology/mythology of 2E leaves a bad taste in my mouth)Keep your tanar'ri out of my demons and get your Finnish Mythos out of my Cthulhu Mythos.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aaron L, post: 3745341, member: 926"] Weird. This is the exact reason why I DO like it very much. Having dragons in a game without using any of the cultural information or details about dragons would be silly. The exact same thing goes for devils. And angels. I am extremely glad that now devils are more than just "lawful monster aliens from another plane" and are now, in fact, Devils. I very much hope that an equal amount of thought is put into demons. You can keep baatezu in 2E, and let me forget the horribly lame concept of Blood War was ever thought up and finally have real devils and demons after mortal souls instead of fighting each other over metagame alignment issues. "I gather mortal's souls through temptation, bargaining, and contracts." "Well, [i]I[/i] prefer to obtain souls by ripping them from the bodies of mortals in a mindless rampage!) "That's SO WRONG! RAWR!!! WAR FOR ALL ETERNITY!!" (Meanwhile, the whole thing about them being monsters after our souls is kinda forgotten about because they are to busy fighting each other to even care about souls.) And thank goodness (or evilness, as the case may be) that, by this description, devils at least are no longer the "promoted" souls of mortal beings. I despised that idea. Let's get back to having demons and devils (and liches!) [i]devouring[/i] souls, and not being recycled from them like aluminum cans. (Ugh, the "equally shoehorned for all settings" cosmology/mythology of 2E leaves a bad taste in my mouth) Keep your tanar'ri out of my demons and get your Finnish Mythos out of my Cthulhu Mythos. [/QUOTE]

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