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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DarthDiablo" data-source="post: 3745583" data-attributes="member: 55048">Yes the name change was used to settle the controversy caused by some religious fanatics.  I grew up in that era and remember when Mazes & Monsters starring Tom Hanks was what most people thought of D&D.  Now gamers are just put into the Nerd catagory. Napolean Dynamite is probably the biggest recent pop-culture movie character to be associated with the game.  On the positive side-good movies like LOTR has made D&D more mainstream and actors like Vin Diesel being self-confessed players & supporters of the game help too.  But enough of that, about those Devils....I see how your interpretation of MM1 can be read as a seed to the Blood War, now that the Blood war is official 2E/3E canon.  However your description of the Demon Lords and their only unifying force being the hatred of good and organized peoples isn't really specific enough to justify that they have had an eternal war with their LE counterparts.I do agree that if the Arch-Devils were to conquer every known plane it would put them at odds with the Demons.  And every one else on every other plane they invaded.  Again no specific mention of their hatred toward the Demons.  2E is what brought the Blood War into D&D.  Yes you could bump into a Demon or Devil on another plane, especially the Prime Material where they are often summoned.  It's been a long time since I held a 1E manual, but I don't recall any mention of encounters with Devils in the Abyss or Demons in the 9 Hells.  I'm not saying it couldn't happen, just it wasn't considered a 1E Norm for Demons & Devils to hate each other as much as they hated the good powers.This is not to say I hate the idea. I actually found the Blood War to be interesting as Planescape canon.  For the common adventurer in a Pseudo-Medieval-Fantasy world I don't think its necessary, unless the 2 forces of evil are battling over a mortal soul (in which case they could be 2 Demons battling each other; or even 2 Devils-though some alignment nazis may argue "due to thier lawful nature it could never happen" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />)Overall I like the idea of Devils as fallen angels who are more corrupting in their power, and Demons as primeval forces of destruction.  It still fits the LE/CE dychotomy without having to use archaic alignment rules to force the creatures into a narrow type of behavior.</blockquote>

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