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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 1567472" data-attributes="member: 114">From another thread I got thinking about the changes to the summon monster spell lists, and quickly writing them out it was clear that there have been quite a lot of changesThe main ones seem to be removing certain elemental creatures from the 3e list, adding dinosaurs and vermin to the 3.5e list and a certain amount of shuffling stuff about. Vipers are downgraded, some of the demons/devils have been seriously boosted in 3.5e leading to their changed position.Here is my crude current analysis (I've left out any fiendish/celestial descriptors to save typing)Summoned Creature changes between 3e and 3.5e1st levelAdded owl, giant fire beetle, porpoise, monkey, raven, medium monstrous centipede, small monstrous scorpion, small monstrous spider, octopus, small viper2nd levelRemoved Formian worker, hyenaMoved octopus to 1st levelAdded giant bee, giant bombardier beetle, riding dog, large monstrous centipede, medium monstrous scorpion, medium monstrous spider3rd level Removed Triton, Azer, Thoqqua,  giant Lizard, small Salamander, leopardMoved small viper to 1st level,  large Shark to 4th levelAdded Hippogriff, Hell Hound, Huge monstrous centipede, large Viper4th levelRemoved small Arrowhawk, medium viper, Imp, Magmin, Tojanida, Vargouille, XornMoved Hell Hound to 3rd level, dire ape to 5th levelAdded giant praying mantis, giant wasp, Large monstrous spider, large shark, Huge Viper, Mephit, Yeth Hound.5th levelRemoved Pegasus, Medium Arrowhawk, girallon, Formian warrior, quasit, medium Salamander, medium Tojanida, Moved Large viper to 3rd level, mephit to 4th level, yeth hound to 4th level, rhinocerous, dire lion, orca to 6th levelAdded giant stag beetle, sea cat, bearded devil, deinonychus, dire ape, Large monstrous scorpion, huge shark, tiger, 6th levelRemoved Barbazu, Belker, Bezekira, unicorn, erinyes, Rast, Red Slaad, medium XornMoved  dire bear to 8th level, huge viper to 4th level, Added Bralani eladrin, dire lion, orca, polar bear, elasmosaurus, gargantuan monstrous centipede, huge monstrous spider, rhinocerous, giant constrictor snake, Janni, Xill7th levelRemoved large Arrowhawk, Ravid, Blue Slaad, Large Tojanida, Large XornMoved dire tiger moved to 8th, Bebilith, Hamatula (barbed devil?) Moved to 9thAdded Babau, Baleen whale, Girallon, megaraptor, huge monstrous scorpion8th level Removed Medium Barghest, Cornugon (horned devil), Formian taskmaster, Large Salamander, SuccubusMoved Janni to 6th levelAdded cachalot whale, dire bear, triceratops, dire tiger, colossal centipede, gargantuan spider, tyrannosaurus, hellcat, vrock9th levelRemoved Astral deva, Large Barghest, Gelugon (ice devil), Ghaele eladrin, Lammasu, Nightmare, RakshasaMoved vrock moved to 8th, xill moved to 6thAdded Bebilith, roc, barbed devil, dire shark, gargantuan scorpion, colossal spider, hezrou, leonalIt looks to me a little like loopholes were closed to reduce the ability of mages to get access to healing (formian workers, unicorn) or other special effects while increasing the range of creatures that basically do damage.</blockquote>

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