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<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 4031987" data-attributes="member: 13966">Changing a favored class.....&nbsp; No problem.&nbsp; It's a slight disadvantage for some elves, but no big deal.Changing the Knight........Remove the whole challenges-thing they got going on.&nbsp; Replace it with, for example, a limited form of Bardic Music (called Battlecry or something), that can provide the Inspire Courage, Inspire Greatness, and maybe Inspire Competence benefits (at appropriate levels and appropriate ranks in Perform - Oratory), and make Perform (Oratory) a class skill (I forget if it is already, or not).Then add something else to cover the weakness incurred; give them a few specific bonus feats perhaps, from books you own, that you consider to be appropriate replacements for some of the Knight's former abilities.&nbsp; Just 2 or 3 feats should do it, I think; the whole Battlecry thing should be enough to compensate for several of the Knight's challenge abilities.Removing the penalties for multiclassing....You could do that, if you wanted to.&nbsp; It will have an impact on balance to some extent, and dipping 1-2 levels or so into different classes for optimizing a munchkin character will be made easier that way.If you just want to replace the XP penalty with something different, then you might consider just giving characters some minor benefits for not going outside the normal multiclass restrictions.For example, maybe a character gets a bonus feat for every 5 levels advanced in any given class, so long as they have not gone beyond the normal limit for nonpenalized multiclassing.&nbsp; And perhaps they get a bonus skill point at each level taken in their favored class (regardless of whether or not they multiclass like crazy, since it's less significant and less easily taken away if they violate that restriction later).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 4031987, member: 13966"] Changing a favored class..... No problem. It's a slight disadvantage for some elves, but no big deal. Changing the Knight........ Remove the whole challenges-thing they got going on. Replace it with, for example, a limited form of Bardic Music (called Battlecry or something), that can provide the Inspire Courage, Inspire Greatness, and maybe Inspire Competence benefits (at appropriate levels and appropriate ranks in Perform - Oratory), and make Perform (Oratory) a class skill (I forget if it is already, or not). Then add something else to cover the weakness incurred; give them a few specific bonus feats perhaps, from books you own, that you consider to be appropriate replacements for some of the Knight's former abilities. Just 2 or 3 feats should do it, I think; the whole Battlecry thing should be enough to compensate for several of the Knight's challenge abilities. Removing the penalties for multiclassing.... You could do that, if you wanted to. It will have an impact on balance to some extent, and dipping 1-2 levels or so into different classes for optimizing a munchkin character will be made easier that way. If you just want to replace the XP penalty with something different, then you might consider just giving characters some minor benefits for not going outside the normal multiclass restrictions. For example, maybe a character gets a bonus feat for every 5 levels advanced in any given class, so long as they have not gone beyond the normal limit for nonpenalized multiclassing. And perhaps they get a bonus skill point at each level taken in their favored class (regardless of whether or not they multiclass like crazy, since it's less significant and less easily taken away if they violate that restriction later). [/QUOTE]

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