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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DM-Rocco" data-source="post: 1542649" data-attributes="member: 14451">Well Coredump, you actually agree with my basic premise.     The way I came up with the fact that DEX should be the modifier for Bluff in combat Feinting is by looking at the Sleight of Hand skill, which is all about making someone believe something that they should not, misdirecting your opponent so as to hide an object or make them look else where while you take their pocket watch or coin bag.  That is the basic premise of a feint, not how attractive or persuassive you are, as the Charisma ability clearly states it is more used for. Jester, your response was not as indepth, but if you have an insight into what someone's intentions are in combat you have a much easier time trying to fool them.     Mainly, the point is not whether Sense Motive is the best skill to be used but that Bluff, or at least the CHR modfier attacthed to Bluff, is not.  Knowing that, and barring the use of DEX as a modifier since that ability is already heavily over used and the DM won't allow that, what else makes more sense than the CHR based Bluff.  The DM is willing to change because he believes, as I do, that Bluff doesn't make sense, as stated above. Knowing that, what do you think would make more sense.</blockquote>