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<blockquote data-quote="C4" data-source="post: 7150584" data-attributes="member: 93857"><p>I'm of mixed opinion about this too. In my <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?290015-C4-the-Best-Edition-Never-Published" target="_blank">Complete 4th Edition</a> I eliminated racial stat bonuses altogether, in part because of Traxe's objection and in part because some of the stat bonuses just don't lend themselves to the classes/builds that a race clearly ought to be good at. The poster boy example being the tiefling, who ought to be a perfect infernalock, but has stats that point to other classes due to having no Con bonus.</p><p></p><p>But in my <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?513675-Three-Years-in-the-Making" target="_blank">Points of Light</a> where I was building everything from scratch anyway and setting racial bonuses and build stats to agree with each other, I went the route of later 4e. I.e., each race gets one predefined bonus and a choose-one-of-two bonus. (Humans get a bonus to any two stats.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>This may sound strange, but hear me out:</p><p></p><p>The human's flex bonus is only an advantage until a player actually assigns it and makes class and build decisions. If D&D were some tabletop wargame where players got to apply that flex bonus differently to different Human Army units, it'd be an advantage in actual play. But D&D is a game of heroes, where once a PC is created, that bonus is the same as every other racial bonus. Thus if players always choose races which grant a +2 to their primary stat anyway, the flex bonus isn't an advantage at all in actual play.</p><p></p><p>Just some food for thought. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Very much this!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="C4, post: 7150584, member: 93857"] I'm of mixed opinion about this too. In my [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?290015-C4-the-Best-Edition-Never-Published"]Complete 4th Edition[/URL] I eliminated racial stat bonuses altogether, in part because of Traxe's objection and in part because some of the stat bonuses just don't lend themselves to the classes/builds that a race clearly ought to be good at. The poster boy example being the tiefling, who ought to be a perfect infernalock, but has stats that point to other classes due to having no Con bonus. But in my [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?513675-Three-Years-in-the-Making"]Points of Light[/URL] where I was building everything from scratch anyway and setting racial bonuses and build stats to agree with each other, I went the route of later 4e. I.e., each race gets one predefined bonus and a choose-one-of-two bonus. (Humans get a bonus to any two stats.) This may sound strange, but hear me out: The human's flex bonus is only an advantage until a player actually assigns it and makes class and build decisions. If D&D were some tabletop wargame where players got to apply that flex bonus differently to different Human Army units, it'd be an advantage in actual play. But D&D is a game of heroes, where once a PC is created, that bonus is the same as every other racial bonus. Thus if players always choose races which grant a +2 to their primary stat anyway, the flex bonus isn't an advantage at all in actual play. Just some food for thought. ;) Very much this! [/QUOTE]
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