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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 4506710" data-attributes="member: 114">No it isn't, and I'll rephrase it to make it clear.Joe Clumsy (Str 5, Dex 5) and Sneaky McRogue (Str 18, Dex 18, Trained in acrobatics, and athletics, skill focus in acrobatics and athletics) are of equal level. If someone pushes them both towards the cliff edge, Sneaky McRogue has no better chance of saving himself from falling over the edge than Joe Clumsy.This picture seems really wrong to me. Not just because they are using the &quot;is a duration up yet&quot; roll as an (old style) saving roll (a &quot;do I avoid this nasty effect&quot; roll), making a fairly effective mechanic do double duty; it also just seems wrong that in a fairly basic situation the highly trained and focussed athlete is no better at saving himself from a fall than Joe Slow.It is all the more strange when the Athletics skill has the following information about Catching Hold when climbing:It seems to me that this rule would work very well for any situation where someone is forced over a precipice or into a hazard - make an assessment about the condition of the surface/availability of handholds and call for an Athletics (Climb) check.Cheers</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 4506710, member: 114"] No it isn't, and I'll rephrase it to make it clear. Joe Clumsy (Str 5, Dex 5) and Sneaky McRogue (Str 18, Dex 18, Trained in acrobatics, and athletics, skill focus in acrobatics and athletics) are of equal level. If someone pushes them both towards the cliff edge, Sneaky McRogue has no better chance of saving himself from falling over the edge than Joe Clumsy. This picture seems really wrong to me. Not just because they are using the "is a duration up yet" roll as an (old style) saving roll (a "do I avoid this nasty effect" roll), making a fairly effective mechanic do double duty; it also just seems wrong that in a fairly basic situation the highly trained and focussed athlete is no better at saving himself from a fall than Joe Slow. It is all the more strange when the Athletics skill has the following information about Catching Hold when climbing: It seems to me that this rule would work very well for any situation where someone is forced over a precipice or into a hazard - make an assessment about the condition of the surface/availability of handholds and call for an Athletics (Climb) check. Cheers [/QUOTE]

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