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<blockquote data-quote="Myrhdraak" data-source="post: 7016765" data-attributes="member: 6694190">One idea I got that is a simple change but, which would result in higher HS usage would be to introduce negative HP, i.e. if I have 10 hp and takes 32 hp in damage I would actually have -22 hp and start rolling death saves. However, in order to heal, you have to use your healing surges to actually heal the negative HP as well. So if a healing surge gives you 20 hp, one healing surge would take you to -2 hp, and you need to apply a second HS to go to positive HP and get conscious. In game play this could actually have a quite big average effect on available healing surges.I can understand that WotC have taken away negative numbers as the kids of today probably have not learnt simple math, but for us old-timers it might work well&nbsp; ;-)&nbsp;You could then add other mechanisms as well. Maybe negative hit points can only be healed with magic or applying a healer's kit with a successful Heal skill check where the amount of negative HP in some way reduces the chance to heal, or the amount healing you get from a Healing Surge. Maybe one of the death save conditions would be to get stabalized but not regaining any HP. Without magic or a proper healer you could be lingering at death's door for days without getting better, as the short and extended rest only heals if you are a 1 hp or higher.You could add a bloodied condition that grants enemies either combat advantage or a +2 chance to hit while bloodied. Damage dealt to you is +1[W] while bloodied. This will force players to use second wind earlier and thereby consume HS earlier in the battle, rather than waiting for the Short Rest.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Myrhdraak, post: 7016765, member: 6694190"] One idea I got that is a simple change but, which would result in higher HS usage would be to introduce negative HP, i.e. if I have 10 hp and takes 32 hp in damage I would actually have -22 hp and start rolling death saves. However, in order to heal, you have to use your healing surges to actually heal the negative HP as well. So if a healing surge gives you 20 hp, one healing surge would take you to -2 hp, and you need to apply a second HS to go to positive HP and get conscious. In game play this could actually have a quite big average effect on available healing surges. I can understand that WotC have taken away negative numbers as the kids of today probably have not learnt simple math, but for us old-timers it might work well ;-) You could then add other mechanisms as well. Maybe negative hit points can only be healed with magic or applying a healer's kit with a successful Heal skill check where the amount of negative HP in some way reduces the chance to heal, or the amount healing you get from a Healing Surge. Maybe one of the death save conditions would be to get stabalized but not regaining any HP. Without magic or a proper healer you could be lingering at death's door for days without getting better, as the short and extended rest only heals if you are a 1 hp or higher. You could add a bloodied condition that grants enemies either combat advantage or a +2 chance to hit while bloodied. Damage dealt to you is +1[W] while bloodied. This will force players to use second wind earlier and thereby consume HS earlier in the battle, rather than waiting for the Short Rest. [/QUOTE]

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