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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 5700409" data-attributes="member: 7006">I'll confess that I'm not understanding what you're trying to get at Kzach.  Comprehension failure on my part.  Mainly in your first two paragraphs.But your third paragraph here......I think you're wondering why I'm giving Leader bonuses to weak creatures?  Or am I not understanding you right in this paragraph either?Because my point was that making Leader an actual monster role rather than an add-on to the other roles would more likely result in weaker boss creatures... which I was saying was a bad thing.A Soldier or Controller Elite or Solo who also gets some buff and heal powers makes the Soldier or Controller even better, and more boss-like (since in my opinion it makes the most sense that the boss can make his underlings stronger in addition to being able to kick ass himself.)  Whereas the Leader monster role by itself results in a boss who just has leader abilities and isn't as impressive (because they, like the cleric or warlord, wouldn't strike as much fear as defenders or strikers usually do.)</blockquote>