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Changing the sleep spell? (and hypnotic pattern too)
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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7043703" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>I think the idea is that it's meant to be a subtle spell that you wouldn't use in battle, even as an opener, but to avoid battle entirely and accomplish some other objective while your victims sleep. But it does seem like it's unlikely to put a whole group to sleep very often, unlike the classic spells which was low-HD enemies, no save. Maybe the situation in which it's cast can be brought into it? No save for unsuspecting victims in a situation where they might fall asleep anyway? As long as you keep away from them, for instance - try to creep up to stab them and they get a save? </p><p></p><p>Another old sleep-related bit of magic was the Hand of Glory, which would keep everyone in a house asleep while you burgled it. Ritual Casting of Sleep, perhaps?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7043703, member: 996"] I think the idea is that it's meant to be a subtle spell that you wouldn't use in battle, even as an opener, but to avoid battle entirely and accomplish some other objective while your victims sleep. But it does seem like it's unlikely to put a whole group to sleep very often, unlike the classic spells which was low-HD enemies, no save. Maybe the situation in which it's cast can be brought into it? No save for unsuspecting victims in a situation where they might fall asleep anyway? As long as you keep away from them, for instance - try to creep up to stab them and they get a save? Another old sleep-related bit of magic was the Hand of Glory, which would keep everyone in a house asleep while you burgled it. Ritual Casting of Sleep, perhaps? [/QUOTE]
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