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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Negative Zero" data-source="post: 956278" data-attributes="member: 3794">but doesn't this pretty much say the opposite of what you wanted? cause the question was, is chaos the absence of order or vice versa? the quote above, to me, implies that by romoving entropy (i.e. creating it's absence) you're left with order.well if you asume that light is actually something, and darkenss is nothing, then yes. light is a form of energy, right? that makes it an actual thing. perhaps not a tangible thing, but a thing none the less. darkness on the other hand doesn't seem to actually be a "thing" barring the metaphysical implications of evil.i wasn't trying to equate light and dark with good and evil. i only used it as an analogy to illustrate my chaos/order Q. but since you brought it up, traditionally, good is represented by light. there are dozens, probably hundreds of references to the light of God, and none that i know of that reference the dark of God saving anyone.Good may not hide itself from anyone, per se, however it seems to be a commonly held fact that the path of good is the more difficult of the two and requires a more active role on the part of the seeker (no, not that Potter kid). therefore light might in fact be a more accurate representative of good, as light is not found everywhere, but the dark must be traversed and/or pushed back in order to find the light, thereby vindivating your efforts and making the end worth of the journey. ... but i digress. (and how!)but doesn't time in fact imply order? time is very deliberate and very methodical. in fact time has more patience than anyone/thing. which sounds like a pretty good argument for the ultimate order, actually <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />S'mon,i have to admit that i don't really understand the difference between entropy and chaos. ... time to hit up dictionary.com again! *sigh*~NegZ</blockquote>

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