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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7363297" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>It occurs to me that there is a really good example from a different sphere of human endeavor - the US military.</p><p></p><p>The US military isn't fully chaotic. A fully chaotic military is a mob that runs as fast as it can to the sound of gunfire with no centralized command and control at all. But the US military is one of the most chaotic formal militaries in the world, as reflects the more chaotic moral values typical of the United States (that is to say, the US has always placed great value in individualism and prizes rights over duties).</p><p></p><p>The reason is that the US military is trained to organize itself in a bottom up fashion, with all the individual elements trained to take initiative and make individual decisions. The US military does give specific orders from time to time, but commanders are trained more to give broad guidelines and to delegate authority with the expectation that their subordinates will work out the details based on their judgment. This means that for example in the US Navy, individual seaman could be assuming responsibilities that in other navies might require the authority of the Captain of the ship.</p><p></p><p>Because their is a hierarchy and an externally reviewable code of conduct you are responsible for, it would be more proper to call this organization 'neutral' on the law/chaos axis, but hopefully it provides some understanding of how you could belong to an organization and that organization still be chaotic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7363297, member: 4937"] It occurs to me that there is a really good example from a different sphere of human endeavor - the US military. The US military isn't fully chaotic. A fully chaotic military is a mob that runs as fast as it can to the sound of gunfire with no centralized command and control at all. But the US military is one of the most chaotic formal militaries in the world, as reflects the more chaotic moral values typical of the United States (that is to say, the US has always placed great value in individualism and prizes rights over duties). The reason is that the US military is trained to organize itself in a bottom up fashion, with all the individual elements trained to take initiative and make individual decisions. The US military does give specific orders from time to time, but commanders are trained more to give broad guidelines and to delegate authority with the expectation that their subordinates will work out the details based on their judgment. This means that for example in the US Navy, individual seaman could be assuming responsibilities that in other navies might require the authority of the Captain of the ship. Because their is a hierarchy and an externally reviewable code of conduct you are responsible for, it would be more proper to call this organization 'neutral' on the law/chaos axis, but hopefully it provides some understanding of how you could belong to an organization and that organization still be chaotic. [/QUOTE]
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