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<blockquote data-quote="LuisCarlos17f" data-source="post: 7363319" data-attributes="member: 6802378">A great example of &quot;chaotic group&quot; in the History is the fitna (civil war among Muslims) of Al-Andalus what caused the end of the Omeya dinasty and the division of Al-Andalus (Spanish land ruled by Muslims) in taifas (little Spanish Muslims kingdoms). Groups need a some common allegiance to face menace and rivale powers. Even the criminal groups&nbsp; may are &quot;chaotic alligment&quot; but they have got their own rules, and usually harder than state law. Do you know how is living in a failed stated from real world?In the fiction annarchy is Guy Fawke kicking-ass the leader of Norsefire party, but in the crude real life annarchy is a Mexican family with firearms in their home because narcos could ring the&nbsp; door and say &quot;I like your daughter, she has to have a shower because after (sex with) your wife she will be the next&quot;. Do you remember that episode of Simpsons with James Brown, &quot;Bart's inner child&quot; and the &quot;do what you feel &quot;festival? In the worst crisis the selfish individualists can't survive alone, but cooperation, sacrifice, hard work and discipline are necessary. 'When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives.'</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LuisCarlos17f, post: 7363319, member: 6802378"] A great example of "chaotic group" in the History is the fitna (civil war among Muslims) of Al-Andalus what caused the end of the Omeya dinasty and the division of Al-Andalus (Spanish land ruled by Muslims) in taifas (little Spanish Muslims kingdoms). Groups need a some common allegiance to face menace and rivale powers. Even the criminal groups may are "chaotic alligment" but they have got their own rules, and usually harder than state law. Do you know how is living in a failed stated from real world? In the fiction annarchy is Guy Fawke kicking-ass the leader of Norsefire party, but in the crude real life annarchy is a Mexican family with firearms in their home because narcos could ring the door and say "I like your daughter, she has to have a shower because after (sex with) your wife she will be the next". Do you remember that episode of Simpsons with James Brown, "Bart's inner child" and the "do what you feel "festival? In the worst crisis the selfish individualists can't survive alone, but cooperation, sacrifice, hard work and discipline are necessary. 'When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives.' [/QUOTE]

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