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Message: <blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7783013" data-attributes="member: 6919838">If you take the term "untrusteorthy" to the extreme of anyone who ever messes up etc, then yup. But that makes everyone untrustworthy snd do the term becomes meaningless.Moreover, here us the rub, it also tends to blow any claim linking reliability and any relationship to lawful vs chaos.If falling asleep on watch means unreliable - there is nothing about lawful that says you dont fall asleep or fo so less than others.If turning on comrades in certain circumstances means unreliable, well, a lawful type might well do so if his teammates are going severely unlawful, in directions they oppose - and turn them in. The Jayne calling the cops to turn them in for bounty could have played out just fine if Jayne had been a lawful type and the trigger was revelation if River and Doc as wanted criminals with now system wide alerts and high threat notice etc. The further you choose to step to the edges the less foundation you stand on.But that's fine. The continual use of broadly scoped words into more extreme cases shows nothing more to be gained.</blockquote>