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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7783251" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I wanted to break this out and deal with it separately, because that is not actually what the story claims.</p><p></p><p>Bizarrely, in the story - and I don't know if Margaret Weiss or Tracy Hickman is responsible for this line - the author has the embodiment of Good in the story claim that Good does not exist and that ultimately Good and Evil are identical. The Chronicles of the Dragonlance doesn't claim that the Kingpriest of Istar went bonkers, which would be reasonable, or that the Kingpriest fell in an act of Hubris, which would also be reasonable.</p><p></p><p>Instead we have Paladine asserting that the Kingpriest became too good, and that in becoming too good - by becoming too much of an extremist about good - that he become indistinguishable from evil.</p><p></p><p>This goes back to what I was saying in a post not long before this one about you can tell accurately what a person believes by what they claim is not real. And when you see a writer claim that ultimately extreme good isn't any different than extreme evil, what you are really claiming is that Balance and Moderation ought to always be the order of the day.</p><p></p><p>So ironically what we have in that scene at the end of Chronicles is an author insertion where the author projects their own beliefs about the universe on to Paladine, because Paladine is the wise mentoring father figure. But ironically the philosophy projects on to Paladine the embodiment of Good is in D&D terms True Neutrality. Paladine doesn't claim that the Priestking was inflicted with self-righteous and hubris, but instead actually defends that moment as Good.... and then goes on essentially to warn against Goodness.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7783251, member: 4937"] I wanted to break this out and deal with it separately, because that is not actually what the story claims. Bizarrely, in the story - and I don't know if Margaret Weiss or Tracy Hickman is responsible for this line - the author has the embodiment of Good in the story claim that Good does not exist and that ultimately Good and Evil are identical. The Chronicles of the Dragonlance doesn't claim that the Kingpriest of Istar went bonkers, which would be reasonable, or that the Kingpriest fell in an act of Hubris, which would also be reasonable. Instead we have Paladine asserting that the Kingpriest became too good, and that in becoming too good - by becoming too much of an extremist about good - that he become indistinguishable from evil. This goes back to what I was saying in a post not long before this one about you can tell accurately what a person believes by what they claim is not real. And when you see a writer claim that ultimately extreme good isn't any different than extreme evil, what you are really claiming is that Balance and Moderation ought to always be the order of the day. So ironically what we have in that scene at the end of Chronicles is an author insertion where the author projects their own beliefs about the universe on to Paladine, because Paladine is the wise mentoring father figure. But ironically the philosophy projects on to Paladine the embodiment of Good is in D&D terms True Neutrality. Paladine doesn't claim that the Priestking was inflicted with self-righteous and hubris, but instead actually defends that moment as Good.... and then goes on essentially to warn against Goodness. [/QUOTE]
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