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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 346931" data-attributes="member: 4937">&quot;than other alignments should be treated like this as well: LN character must obay ANY law, even those created by CE goverment&quot;Well, yes, assuming that there is such a thing as CE goverment, and that those laws encourage people to obey the goverment, and that means of altering the goverment or not within the legal rights of the LN individual.&nbsp; Specifically, if the LN is a servant of an absolute monarch with a (percieved) legitimate claim to the throne, then the fact that the monarch is CE or insane or anything else is bothersome but unimportant compared to his duty to obey his leige.&nbsp; He cannot act against his ruler unless some higher law (and what law is higher than an absolute monarch?) is broken.&nbsp; &quot;all Good beings must act like Mother Theresa...&quot;Well, more or less.&nbsp; All good beings must act good, though there are a range of actions which fall under the general category of compassionate.&nbsp; &quot;...and Evil means destroying any Good on sight.&quot;Well, I don't know about that.&nbsp; Evil means evil.&nbsp; Killing and destroying can be part of that.&nbsp; Who you kill and destroy probably isn't all that important to you if you are truly evil.Sure there are complications.&nbsp; No one follows thier own alignment perfectly for a variaty of reasons: tempatation, cowardice, and lack of wisdom for example.&nbsp; Each alignment can have a variaty of valid philosophical interpretations.&nbsp; (For instance, some NG's may be pacifists and others may be police officers - but if they are both nuetral good, both share in varying degrees distaste for (but not a fear of) violence.)&nbsp; However, too much dwelling on the complications tends to be attempts to weasel out of the philosophical beliefs that supposedly motivate your character.&nbsp; In such case, the real motivation of the player/character tends to be something other than the stated, and it would be better if the alignment was altered to reflect that.&nbsp; Most of the time, those beliefs are neutral (the most relativist moral system) - that is to say, the belief that there is a time and place for every sort of behavior (and that the deciding factor is generally minimizing the hardship such a behavior causes the individual).&nbsp; I don't find that suprising, since moral relativism is the most commonly taught social code in modern Western civilization.&nbsp; Most people have a hard believing that anyone believes that there is anything that one should always do.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 346931, member: 4937"] "than other alignments should be treated like this as well: LN character must obay ANY law, even those created by CE goverment" Well, yes, assuming that there is such a thing as CE goverment, and that those laws encourage people to obey the goverment, and that means of altering the goverment or not within the legal rights of the LN individual. Specifically, if the LN is a servant of an absolute monarch with a (percieved) legitimate claim to the throne, then the fact that the monarch is CE or insane or anything else is bothersome but unimportant compared to his duty to obey his leige. He cannot act against his ruler unless some higher law (and what law is higher than an absolute monarch?) is broken. "all Good beings must act like Mother Theresa..." Well, more or less. All good beings must act good, though there are a range of actions which fall under the general category of compassionate. "...and Evil means destroying any Good on sight." Well, I don't know about that. Evil means evil. Killing and destroying can be part of that. Who you kill and destroy probably isn't all that important to you if you are truly evil. Sure there are complications. No one follows thier own alignment perfectly for a variaty of reasons: tempatation, cowardice, and lack of wisdom for example. Each alignment can have a variaty of valid philosophical interpretations. (For instance, some NG's may be pacifists and others may be police officers - but if they are both nuetral good, both share in varying degrees distaste for (but not a fear of) violence.) However, too much dwelling on the complications tends to be attempts to weasel out of the philosophical beliefs that supposedly motivate your character. In such case, the real motivation of the player/character tends to be something other than the stated, and it would be better if the alignment was altered to reflect that. Most of the time, those beliefs are neutral (the most relativist moral system) - that is to say, the belief that there is a time and place for every sort of behavior (and that the deciding factor is generally minimizing the hardship such a behavior causes the individual). I don't find that suprising, since moral relativism is the most commonly taught social code in modern Western civilization. Most people have a hard believing that anyone believes that there is anything that one should always do. [/QUOTE]

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