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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 6705873" data-attributes="member: 6790260">For the first: I'm sorry you feel you've damaged your group's experience. I'm especially sorry that you feel you need to abandon the character--do your fellow players feel the same? If this is just a matter of you &quot;feeling dirty,&quot; when the character is both liked (in roleplay terms) and valued (in effectiveness terms) by your fellow players, it might be a disservice to them and yourself to retire the character out of hand. Also, don't forget that 5e tends to have...well, a very loose concept of &quot;balance.&quot; What seems insanely powerful at one level can be weaksauce a few levels later; the Moon Druid comes to mind. Perhaps you've gotten lucky, perhaps you've hit a momentary sweetspot. Obviously, none of this--not even your group's feelings--should trump your own feeling son the matter, but...well, give it a thought, at least.As for the second: Does optimization inherently mean munchkinism? What about, as others have said, optimizing within the limits of a concept, even if that concept is not optimal itself?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 6705873, member: 6790260"] For the first: I'm sorry you feel you've damaged your group's experience. I'm especially sorry that you feel you need to abandon the character--do your fellow players feel the same? If this is just a matter of you "feeling dirty," when the character is both liked (in roleplay terms) and valued (in effectiveness terms) by your fellow players, it might be a disservice to them and yourself to retire the character out of hand. Also, don't forget that 5e tends to have...well, a very [I]loose[/I] concept of "balance." What seems insanely powerful at one level can be weaksauce a few levels later; the Moon Druid comes to mind. Perhaps you've gotten lucky, perhaps you've hit a momentary sweetspot. Obviously, none of this--not even your group's feelings--should trump your own feeling son the matter, but...well, give it a thought, at least. As for the second: Does optimization [I]inherently[/I] mean munchkinism? What about, as others have said, optimizing within the limits of a concept, even if that concept is not optimal itself? [/QUOTE]

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