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<blockquote data-quote="Kabouter Games" data-source="post: 6707246" data-attributes="member: 6788812"><p>Now I feel bad because we're in the middle of a munchkin vs actor fight, which I never intended. (Maybe it was merely in abeyance before I caused it to reflare. I don't know. Nevertheless.)</p><p></p><p>We all have our preferences. There is room in the game - if not at our respective tables - for all kinds of different playstyles. If you don't like a particular playstyle, don't play it or don't have it at your table. You should also refrain from coming onto the interwebs and pissing in other people's sandboxes about it. Not cool. It's kind of like gay marriage. If you don't like gay marriage, don't get gay married. Don't attend gay marriages. But if you try to stop two people getting married because you think their marriage is squicky, you're a dick. </p><p></p><p>On second thought, it's <strong>exactly </strong>like gay marriage. So <strong>STAHP</strong>. Allayall.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now I have an opinion I wish to express about the concept of min-maxing. </p><p></p><p>I prefer to start the game with a character who's pretty much fully formed, who has all the skills she needs to be the concept, and just gets better at those skills. Maybe she adds to those skills later on, picking up a thing or two from an unexpected career change or hobby. That makes sense to me, because that happens - you pick up another skill here and there over your career, maybe you change careers entirely. But I don't know anyone who starts out with their skill and profession acquisitions all mapped out like an optimizer maps out his character's life.</p><p></p><p>In other words, if I want Indiana Jones, if the character can start out with a PhD in archaeology, decent DEX, STR, CON, and INT, proficiencies in Whip, Pistol, Acrobatics, and Dungeoneering, I'm happy. If "the best" means I have to have a map that starts him as a Human Variant for the free feat, then Rogue to get X Y Z, then takes the stat bump at level 4, then splash Monk for three, then back to Rogue for five, then a splash of Fighter, then back to Monk until endgame, well, that's too crunchy for me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kabouter Games, post: 6707246, member: 6788812"] Now I feel bad because we're in the middle of a munchkin vs actor fight, which I never intended. (Maybe it was merely in abeyance before I caused it to reflare. I don't know. Nevertheless.) We all have our preferences. There is room in the game - if not at our respective tables - for all kinds of different playstyles. If you don't like a particular playstyle, don't play it or don't have it at your table. You should also refrain from coming onto the interwebs and pissing in other people's sandboxes about it. Not cool. It's kind of like gay marriage. If you don't like gay marriage, don't get gay married. Don't attend gay marriages. But if you try to stop two people getting married because you think their marriage is squicky, you're a dick. On second thought, it's [B]exactly [/B]like gay marriage. So [B]STAHP[/B]. Allayall. Now I have an opinion I wish to express about the concept of min-maxing. I prefer to start the game with a character who's pretty much fully formed, who has all the skills she needs to be the concept, and just gets better at those skills. Maybe she adds to those skills later on, picking up a thing or two from an unexpected career change or hobby. That makes sense to me, because that happens - you pick up another skill here and there over your career, maybe you change careers entirely. But I don't know anyone who starts out with their skill and profession acquisitions all mapped out like an optimizer maps out his character's life. In other words, if I want Indiana Jones, if the character can start out with a PhD in archaeology, decent DEX, STR, CON, and INT, proficiencies in Whip, Pistol, Acrobatics, and Dungeoneering, I'm happy. If "the best" means I have to have a map that starts him as a Human Variant for the free feat, then Rogue to get X Y Z, then takes the stat bump at level 4, then splash Monk for three, then back to Rogue for five, then a splash of Fighter, then back to Monk until endgame, well, that's too crunchy for me. [/QUOTE]
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